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HelpI wonder that myself.
in reply to a message by Murasaki
I've kind of wondered that myself. People like stuff like Saoirse or Siobhan, or Niamh. Unless you know how to speak Gaelic/Irish you won't know how to pronounce it. And, it's pointless if you live in America, because most people don't know how to pronounce it.
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I'd definitely change the spelling...
I think Celtic names sound really pretty, but like you, I find the spellings a bit cumbersome. That's why I'd use Seersha, Shavonne, and Neve before Saoirse, Siobhan, and Niamh. If you search the database, you'd see that most Irish names have a phonetic anglicized form that would be more appropriate to use in the US.
I think Celtic names sound really pretty, but like you, I find the spellings a bit cumbersome. That's why I'd use Seersha, Shavonne, and Neve before Saoirse, Siobhan, and Niamh. If you search the database, you'd see that most Irish names have a phonetic anglicized form that would be more appropriate to use in the US.
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Yeah I agree.
It bugs me a lot when people are like "How dare you bastardise our names etc. etc. etc." It makes it so much easier to pronounce in english speaking countries. To me it's like refusing to translate Asian names from their original characters. Saoirse Does Not Spell Seersha in my language!
My online friend Janine talked often of her friend named Siobhan when I first met her. I thought it was the most absurd name ever and said "LMAO SIOBHAN" every time she mentioned her. And one day I finally asked, "How do you pronounce it?" "Sha-von." I was filled with two conflicting emotions: anger and extreme amusement.
I like the sounds of Saoirse and Caoimhe (sp)? a lot, but there are a lot of Celtic names that I just don't find interesting or appealling, and I strongly dislike the sounds of a lot of modern-irish names. And I have gotten into plenty of arguments about Celtic names and no one has convinced me that I should start liking them.
It bugs me a lot when people are like "How dare you bastardise our names etc. etc. etc." It makes it so much easier to pronounce in english speaking countries. To me it's like refusing to translate Asian names from their original characters. Saoirse Does Not Spell Seersha in my language!
My online friend Janine talked often of her friend named Siobhan when I first met her. I thought it was the most absurd name ever and said "LMAO SIOBHAN" every time she mentioned her. And one day I finally asked, "How do you pronounce it?" "Sha-von." I was filled with two conflicting emotions: anger and extreme amusement.
I like the sounds of Saoirse and Caoimhe (sp)? a lot, but there are a lot of Celtic names that I just don't find interesting or appealling, and I strongly dislike the sounds of a lot of modern-irish names. And I have gotten into plenty of arguments about Celtic names and no one has convinced me that I should start liking them.
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lol
Normally, I'm all for not mangling the original spelling of a name, but I also find it funny when people get all worked up and are all like: "No! Kiaran is apalling! The original, pure Celtic Ciaràn must be used!" considering Anglicized spellings are more or legitimized and that it's a bit silly to condemn your kids to have their names mispelled and mispronounced all their lives, for the sake of respect of Celtic languages.
Normally, I'm all for not mangling the original spelling of a name, but I also find it funny when people get all worked up and are all like: "No! Kiaran is apalling! The original, pure Celtic Ciaràn must be used!" considering Anglicized spellings are more or legitimized and that it's a bit silly to condemn your kids to have their names mispelled and mispronounced all their lives, for the sake of respect of Celtic languages.
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Whoever says that, though? The Irish and Scots certainly don't. They use Kieran themselves a lot of the time. I think well-meaning American name-nerds are much more defensive of Gaelic than we are.
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Same here.
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Ditto.
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