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HelpRe: Joel, Kiko, Miko (girls)
in reply to a message by Tiggs
But "Jo" is a recognizable sound on a girl, and it's really the ONLY sound. As for the less prominent "uhl" ending there's Cheryl, Carole, Myrtle... But then, every name when broken down probably contains both "masculine" and "feminine" parts. I just don't think Joel screams "MAN!" In the same way that something like Butch, or Arnold, or even Carson or Logan (which I've both seen used on girls before) do.
Ryan is to Diane as Joel is to Noelle
Obviously names conjure different images and impressions for everyone. I'm just having a hard time seeing Joel-on-a-girl as that largely different than Ryan-on-a-girl; other than that Ryan-on-a-girl is heard of.
I'm not really that caught up in it. Was just perplexed I suppose
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Ryan is to Diane as Joel is to Noelle
Obviously names conjure different images and impressions for everyone. I'm just having a hard time seeing Joel-on-a-girl as that largely different than Ryan-on-a-girl; other than that Ryan-on-a-girl is heard of.
I'm not really that caught up in it. Was just perplexed I suppose
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“All generalizations are false, including this one.”
my names list:
http://www.behindthename.com/pnl/111261
**currently my keyboard.... sucks. So please forgive my likely spelling errors**
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You make a good point about the ending sound of Cheryl and Myrtle, etc. I wasn't hearing the ending of Joel as being recognizably similar to any feminine names, but it is.
Regarding your Ryan to Diane, Joel to Noelle analogy, despite the stress falling differently, the sound components of Ryan, for me, are far closer to that of Diane than is the sound of Joel to Noelle, the latter being very soft and feminine. I realize YMMV.
I get what you're saying about the only difference, for you, being that Joel isn't heard of in use for girls but, for me, for whatever reason, Joel still feels more overtly masculine and, while it doesn't scream it quite as loudly as Butch, for me, it's every bit as masculine as Arnold.
Regarding your Ryan to Diane, Joel to Noelle analogy, despite the stress falling differently, the sound components of Ryan, for me, are far closer to that of Diane than is the sound of Joel to Noelle, the latter being very soft and feminine. I realize YMMV.
I get what you're saying about the only difference, for you, being that Joel isn't heard of in use for girls but, for me, for whatever reason, Joel still feels more overtly masculine and, while it doesn't scream it quite as loudly as Butch, for me, it's every bit as masculine as Arnold.
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