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[Facts] Re: Help with meaning and origin of a name
Persian jamadar from Arabic جاما (collection) and Persian در (having) through Urdu and Hindi jamadar, a low-ranking position (lieutenant) in British Indian army, meaning shifting to a menial worker/sweeper/cleaner in north Indian languages today.
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So in Urdu and Hindi it wasn't a name but a position in the British Indian Army?Is it used as a name in Urdu/Hindi at all?
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I haven't heard it as a name in Hindi/Urdu. Whether it was ever used as a name, I can't tell.
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Ah, thank you!
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So, JAMADAR means "janitor" now?
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Actually more like cleaner/servant rather than doorman, and in the Indian context, far lower in the social hierarchy.
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In USA, a janitor is a cleaner rather than a doorman (as the etymology suggests).
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