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Help[Opinions] Re: Anya or Anna?
in reply to a message by Lily
general tendency of sticking by "feeling," impression, and anecdote rather than actual statistics.
It just hasn't been falling that steadily at all, 22-28 over a period of five years is really not that dramatic of a change or even a pattern, and even then its peak of popularity would have been 2001, not the eighties. It's still more popular now than it has been in any year of the 80s. A lot about names is subjective, like... whether they're nice or not... is subjective, and you might have gotten the impression that Anna is "dated to the eighties" because of the purely subjective sample of Annas that you happen to know, but there are a few objectively measurable things, like popularity over the years. Even with regional variations...
It just hasn't been falling that steadily at all, 22-28 over a period of five years is really not that dramatic of a change or even a pattern, and even then its peak of popularity would have been 2001, not the eighties. It's still more popular now than it has been in any year of the 80s. A lot about names is subjective, like... whether they're nice or not... is subjective, and you might have gotten the impression that Anna is "dated to the eighties" because of the purely subjective sample of Annas that you happen to know, but there are a few objectively measurable things, like popularity over the years. Even with regional variations...
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Uhm no. If you look at popularity lists by state you can see how much they vary. Some have Aurora in the top 30 while it doesn't even appear in the top 100 or so in most other states. And states are huge so it's very well possible that popularity varies within a state.
I study economics, I know how you fake a statistic and MANY are fake. It's not that I don't believe in the popularity stats, I generally do. But I know how many Annas have met and whether it feels dated to me personally or not. I even opened a thread (which must have been several years ago already) in which I asked people what the top names in their state were the year they were born in and there were many surprises such as people knowing 5 or more people with a name that was at number 90 or knowing none with the top name. It varies.
I don't really know what your problem is. You seem so defensive. To me Anna is dated because I know lots who were born in the 80s and hardly any younger ones. And I'm not the only one as you have seen. I'm not saying that it's a bad name or anything it just seems tired to me. It's really unnecessary to discuss this because this particular statistic isn't accurate enough, meaning that there is no exact statistic for my city or my neighborhood.
edited: There were actually more Annas born in 1988 than in 2008. There could be several explanations such as a generally bigger variety in names (now) or changed birth rates I'm not interested enough in the name to look it up. But there were more Annas born the year I was born in than now.
I study economics, I know how you fake a statistic and MANY are fake. It's not that I don't believe in the popularity stats, I generally do. But I know how many Annas have met and whether it feels dated to me personally or not. I even opened a thread (which must have been several years ago already) in which I asked people what the top names in their state were the year they were born in and there were many surprises such as people knowing 5 or more people with a name that was at number 90 or knowing none with the top name. It varies.
I don't really know what your problem is. You seem so defensive. To me Anna is dated because I know lots who were born in the 80s and hardly any younger ones. And I'm not the only one as you have seen. I'm not saying that it's a bad name or anything it just seems tired to me. It's really unnecessary to discuss this because this particular statistic isn't accurate enough, meaning that there is no exact statistic for my city or my neighborhood.
edited: There were actually more Annas born in 1988 than in 2008. There could be several explanations such as a generally bigger variety in names (now) or changed birth rates I'm not interested enough in the name to look it up. But there were more Annas born the year I was born in than now.
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It's really not that interesting of a conversation, I agree, but it's just such a strange point you're making. I just don't get what you're saying...
The percentages are virtually almost the same.
and of course it varies across the individual states, but we weren't talking about individual states, you said "the US." It might have had a spurt of unusual popularity in your state in the 80s and that's why you "feel" that it's dated, but for the US as a whole it's just not like that. A name can "feel" dated to someone without actually being dated... I know tons of young Annas, but my "anecdotal evidence" doesn't mean very much and especially wouldn't be interesting to someone not from my area
The percentages are virtually almost the same.
and of course it varies across the individual states, but we weren't talking about individual states, you said "the US." It might have had a spurt of unusual popularity in your state in the 80s and that's why you "feel" that it's dated, but for the US as a whole it's just not like that. A name can "feel" dated to someone without actually being dated... I know tons of young Annas, but my "anecdotal evidence" doesn't mean very much and especially wouldn't be interesting to someone not from my area
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Uhm no, I wrote I think it's dated in the US, not I know for a fact it's dated. It was simply my opinion based on what I experienced in my area. Never did I say things like "Anna is so dated, no one should use it, it screams 80s". That's what you're reading into it. Read my posts again, please.
I never started this discussion, you did. I felt it was dated and saw that supported by the fact that it is falling (slowly but it is falling) I thought it would feel dated to others because it seems to be used a little less each year.
If you don't understand what I'm saying I can't help you but this discussion is so pointless and I don't really see what YOU are getting at. There were more Annas born in 1988. That's all I was saying and it is a fact.
I always said "in my opinion" "from my personal feelings". I never even said it was a fact that it was dated, I stated what is the case in my area and from my experience.
So again to make it clear: In MY opinion Anna is a dated name because in MY area it was used a lot in the 80s. In my kindergarten class 5 out of 20 girls were named Anna and there was an Anna-Sumi as well. I know more girls named Anna than with any other feminine name and I don't know many young ones. So to me it is tired and dated.
Maybe I should have made that clearer. I won't answer to this thread anymore because it's so old and I don't feel like searching for it again plus this is getting nowhere.
I never started this discussion, you did. I felt it was dated and saw that supported by the fact that it is falling (slowly but it is falling) I thought it would feel dated to others because it seems to be used a little less each year.
If you don't understand what I'm saying I can't help you but this discussion is so pointless and I don't really see what YOU are getting at. There were more Annas born in 1988. That's all I was saying and it is a fact.
I always said "in my opinion" "from my personal feelings". I never even said it was a fact that it was dated, I stated what is the case in my area and from my experience.
So again to make it clear: In MY opinion Anna is a dated name because in MY area it was used a lot in the 80s. In my kindergarten class 5 out of 20 girls were named Anna and there was an Anna-Sumi as well. I know more girls named Anna than with any other feminine name and I don't know many young ones. So to me it is tired and dated.
Maybe I should have made that clearer. I won't answer to this thread anymore because it's so old and I don't feel like searching for it again plus this is getting nowhere.
This message was edited 12/2/2011, 4:49 PM
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