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the meaning still doesn't change just because it's on a girl.
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I'm just telling you what I've read on baby name sites.http://www.babynames.com/name/REGAN
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Ah, pooh. That site's like a supermarket baby name book, chock full of whimsical, poetic meanings that women like to read. It says Chloe means "verdant and blooming" - it actually means "green shoot" from the Greek khloe. It says Charlotte means "free"! You can't believe every site you read. The best one online is this one.
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According to this site, Regan has an unknown meaning.
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and that is correct. it's not fun, but it's honest.
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How do you know it's correct though? Every other site that has it listed has the same meaning for it??
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Because of the entymology. It lists some possibilites (from folklore, maybe from Riagan), but it has not been proven.It's easier to say, "oh it sounds like it could be from Ryan, and we know what that means, so I bet it means the same thing" and not even attempt to support that conclusion.
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I haven't read anything that assumes it came from Ryan. Regina, yes, but not Ryan.
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Reginadoes not mean "little king" so how then does Regan mean little king for a boy.
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I never looked up Regina. Once again, I'm just repeating what I've read on many other sites. In the comments section on this site, people gave that meaning as well. I don't know, I guess when you read something enough, you believe it's true since there's no way to know for sure. I mean, if Shakespeare was the first to use it for King Lear's daughter, I can see where sites would get "royal" as a meaning for a little girl.
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Well, the comments sections on this site aren't always right, either. I go by the official site meaning of a name, and ignore the comments. We always have people wander over here and say whatever THEY think is right, but that doesn't make it so.
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But how would one know which sites are correct? I must have looked at two dozen sites ALL saying the exact same thing on the main site. But for some reason, everyone but me knows that all those sites are wrong. I don't get how you guys know that.
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Because BtN cites their sources, and most names list an etymology (or historical usage) instead of concocting half-baked "meanings". Look at today's name of the day, Donald: "from the Gaelic name Domhnall which means "ruler of the world", composed of the old Celtic elements dumno "world" and val "rule". Also, there's a source page on here that cites the sources for names.The only "inaccuracies" I've seen on BtN have to do with usage. I remember Pie said that a few of Welsh names on here aren't actually used as names in Wales (even if the meaning is correct).BtN isn't perfect but it's definitely a cut above the majority of other sites and supermarket books out there.
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All that makes sense and I'm not saying that BtN is wrong. I'm just saying they're saying that the name is of "unknown" origin. But how do we know it's really unknown? BtN just hasn't found sources for it yet. If BtN had another meaning for it, I'd be inclined to go with that, but when they say "unknown" I think that just means that BtN people haven't found a meaning that they can prove, not that there isn't a meaning.
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You're right, it is likely that the root of Regan, whatever it is, did have some meaning at one point, but we just can't figure that out yet. That is why the meaning is "unknown". It's not saying the name means nothing or that it was made up nonsense. The name Anthony also has an unknown meaning in that way. We know it's from an Etruscan name, but since the Romans were fond of obliterating any traces of previous cultures, it is hard to find out any more than that. The Celts were not big into keeping written records either, so we've had to piece things together from evidence gathered over time. Like, we know what their word "rí" meant, so maybe it's related to that. Something kingy. But until we find a rock or papyrus or whatever that spells it out for some scholar somewhere, we just don't know. So it is "unknown".
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Yeah, and Katherine and Mary.
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Aaarrrghh!Babynames.com really really sucks when it comes to meanings. A fun site, but not good at all for research. In fact, most sites stink when it comes to etymology. This is one of my pet peeves:I even have a rant about it here:
http://www.namenerds.com/uucn/advice/namebook.htmlBtN is one of the only sites i trust!
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I didn't know you managed Namenerds! (I should have guessed it ... Norah Namenerd ... but no).Fun and informative article. And Charlotte = man-ette made me snort.
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That was fantastic!
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Looks like a great site. But it doesn't have the name Regan on there, unfortunately.
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derpmissed the point entirely good jobtry reading the actual article

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Um, I did read it. I get what the author is saying, but considering that's a baby name site and the author is telling us that baby books make up meanings for baby names, I assumed that the names on that site had meanings that were cited from sources. I then looked up their name list and didn't find one for the name I was interested in. Or should I have assumed the author of the site would publish meanings without sources right after an article on the index bashing that practice?Try not being so rude if you choose to reply.
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Norah Namenerd, who is posting in this thread, is the author of that post. In the post in which she provided that link, she also says "BtN is one of the only sites i trust!"
Look up Regan on BTN. See meaning. Understand the other sites are wrong, because THAT IS WHAT HER ARTICLE IS TELLING YOU, WITH ACCURACY. End.
And I will reply as I see fit, guest.

This message was edited 6/24/2011, 11:12 PM

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Climb down off your perch, Oh Holy One. You don't intimidate me. Everyone else on this thread has managed to be civil, including the poster to whom you're referring. Give it a shot and maybe I'll give what you say the tiniest amount of credence. Until then, don't tell me what is "the end" and quit the inane "the sites are wrong because she's telling you they are" nonsense. I'm a free-thinking adult and don't need others telling me what is and isn't right.Now, THE END! Geez, take a chill pill.
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It's not really a baby name site, it's a site about names.
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