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[Surname] Re: Yadryshnikov

by Sean Foglai (guest)

10/8/2006, 10:41 PM

I did a bit of checking on a Russian name site. Y names were very few, so I looked at J names as many European pronunciations of Y ar like J ...but J lead me to I which is often a substitute in Eastern European languages ...

Anyway, here's a guess for the name's root ... Iador (m) -- "violet gift." But read this page ...

http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/h-j.html

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- Jim Young (guest) +5

10/9/2006, 5:17 AM

Interestingly, there are similar Polish surnames, Jadrysiak and Jadryszak, but I'm unable to learn their meaning. I don't think the Russian name is a patronym, the -nik suffix suggests otherwise. The construction is similar to, for example, khleb,"bread", khlebnik, "baker"; giving us surname Khlebnikov. So for my money Yadryshnikov descends from someone connected to a yadrysh, whatever that is. A Russian dictionary I consulted has the following: yadro "kernel, nucleus", yadrysh (ÿäðûø), "nucleolus". Not likely to be the source of Yadryshnikov, but an indication that the word exists, and may have had some other meaning in the remote past or in some obscure dialect.

- asz +4

10/9/2006, 12:23 PM

I found an Old Polish word "jadro" which is "a fish net", in fact "a convexity of a fish net" (whatever this means). In other Slavic languages (Serbian and Slovenian are mentioned in my dictionary) "jadro" means (or rather meant) "a sail" and that's the original meaning of this word (it existed also in Old Church Slavonic). That's all from the most famous, though a bit outdated etymological dictionary of Polish. Maybe that's the clue? Anyway, it's more possible to be the source of the surname than "a nucleus".

- Sean Foglai (guest) +3

10/9/2006, 12:40 PM

I love this research process ...do any of you have a good link for Slavic names/language? Mine is very limited ...

- asz (guest) +2

10/10/2006, 12:51 AM

http://grzegorj.w.interia.pl/gram/iso/links.html
I haven't checked those links yet, but maybe you'll find something useful here.

- Sean Foglai (guest) +1

10/10/2006, 6:26 AM

Thanks!

- asz

10/12/2006, 4:22 AM

Not at all.

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