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Help[Opinions] Maybe I gave poor examples but it's true
in reply to a message by Lily
I could have chosen better examples but I couldnt think of English equivalents, all you have to do it google "Quels sont les prénoms les plus beaufs que vous avez entendus","Que pensez vous du prénom Océane" etc, and you will see that like names on US boards it gets some good reviews from mainly trendy/unique or Sophie/Isabel crowd but overall people are getting sick of the name and comparing it to Brenda, Kelly, Dylan, etc...the name is not exactly BCBG.
I have lived in both countries, husband grew up in France is 1/2 French.
I have lived in both countries, husband grew up in France is 1/2 French.
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I didn't get that impression at all. I copied and googled what you searched for and most people liked Oceane or thought it was boring. Many mentioned the nature image and the nice sound. There were quite a few who said it was boring and overused or who said 'it's nice but too common'. But there were hardly any who thought it sounded trashy, tacky or trendy. Hardly anyone who had any strong negative opinions. Also I didn't find a thread in which it was compared to Kevin or Brenda.
Here is exactly what I found:
I googled 'Que pensez vous du prénom Océane' and yes, there are some people who think it's horrible but also many who like it. I didn't find a single thread in which everyone thought it was horrible, dated or tacky. Most people who didn't like it just thought it was boring. You would get the same results if you googled Hannah or Alexis, probably even Elizabeth or Margaret (in the US).
I also googled this:
'Quels sont les prénoms les plus beaufs que vous avez entendus'
I guess you found this thread:
http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091005034336AAslS9o&cp=2
I didn't find a single thread in which people compared Oceane to Kevin and Dylan. I found only ONE thread in which someone listed Oceane at all, which is the one I linked above. In the others Kevin, Stacy, Brandon, Kimberly etc are listed multiple times but never Oceane. I would say it's a coincidence. Theodora, Bernadette and Theo were also listed in the thread above and I think they are generally thought of as nice names in France. The reason why Kevin, Brenda and Dylan are listed multiple times is that American/English names are usually perceived as trashy in non-English speaking countries in Europe. My dad is German and it's the same there. German comedians are making fun of names like Kevin and Cheyenne on a regular basis.
I go to France at least once a year for several months and never got the impression that people thought of it as trendy or uneducated or anything. My aunt's friend was considering it for her daughter last summer when I was there and she received many positive comments on how beautiful it is. She also considered Lea which got many negative comments (boring, generic etc). I mean Lea was number 1 for some time as far as I know but Oceane was almost as common (number 7, I believe), so it surprised me a little. She named her Victoire, by the way :P
Here is exactly what I found:
I googled 'Que pensez vous du prénom Océane' and yes, there are some people who think it's horrible but also many who like it. I didn't find a single thread in which everyone thought it was horrible, dated or tacky. Most people who didn't like it just thought it was boring. You would get the same results if you googled Hannah or Alexis, probably even Elizabeth or Margaret (in the US).
I also googled this:
'Quels sont les prénoms les plus beaufs que vous avez entendus'
I guess you found this thread:
http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091005034336AAslS9o&cp=2
I didn't find a single thread in which people compared Oceane to Kevin and Dylan. I found only ONE thread in which someone listed Oceane at all, which is the one I linked above. In the others Kevin, Stacy, Brandon, Kimberly etc are listed multiple times but never Oceane. I would say it's a coincidence. Theodora, Bernadette and Theo were also listed in the thread above and I think they are generally thought of as nice names in France. The reason why Kevin, Brenda and Dylan are listed multiple times is that American/English names are usually perceived as trashy in non-English speaking countries in Europe. My dad is German and it's the same there. German comedians are making fun of names like Kevin and Cheyenne on a regular basis.
I go to France at least once a year for several months and never got the impression that people thought of it as trendy or uneducated or anything. My aunt's friend was considering it for her daughter last summer when I was there and she received many positive comments on how beautiful it is. She also considered Lea which got many negative comments (boring, generic etc). I mean Lea was number 1 for some time as far as I know but Oceane was almost as common (number 7, I believe), so it surprised me a little. She named her Victoire, by the way :P
This message was edited 6/3/2012, 5:49 PM
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I`m intrigued by the use of Victoire. I was sure that that name had been nearly dead and replaced by Victoria since the era of la reine du meme prénom. Especially interesting considering her other choices. I haven`t checked the stats, though, am I wrong in this perception? Maybe this is only true in Canada.
I`m intrigued by the use of Victoire. I was sure that that name had been nearly dead and replaced by Victoria since the era of la reine du meme prénom. Especially interesting considering her other choices. I haven`t checked the stats, though, am I wrong in this perception? Maybe this is only true in Canada.
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Victoire
The name has had a big spike in popularity in France over the last 10-20 years, it's always been a pretty steady name but it's come back pretty big right now along with a lot of other older, traditional names.
http://www.aufeminin.com/w/prenom/p19482/victoire.html
The name has had a big spike in popularity in France over the last 10-20 years, it's always been a pretty steady name but it's come back pretty big right now along with a lot of other older, traditional names.
http://www.aufeminin.com/w/prenom/p19482/victoire.html
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Yeah, see, in Quebec it`s been 1 a year for the past 6 years and 2 last year. Compared to 263 little Victorias in 2011. Huh.
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Yeah, see, in Quebec it`s been 1 a year for the past 6 years and 2 last year. Compared to 263 little Victorias in 2011. Huh.
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Victoire vs Victoria
Victoria is going pretty strong too
http://www.aufeminin.com/w/prenom/p19489/victoria.html
So expect to see a name bashlack within 10-15 years
Victoria is going pretty strong too
http://www.aufeminin.com/w/prenom/p19489/victoria.html
So expect to see a name bashlack within 10-15 years
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it's cool we can disagree
Maybe it's mainly on sites I post aufeminin.com, people I know dont like Oceane that much but maybe that's the area we live in when we go there? Who knows but it's fine to disagree, obviously any name that has a big popularity boom is going to be liked by a good number of people.
About Dylan: any name related to 90210 or most American TV shows is considered sort of lower class by a lot of people.
Maybe it's mainly on sites I post aufeminin.com, people I know dont like Oceane that much but maybe that's the area we live in when we go there? Who knows but it's fine to disagree, obviously any name that has a big popularity boom is going to be liked by a good number of people.
About Dylan: any name related to 90210 or most American TV shows is considered sort of lower class by a lot of people.
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Hahaha how could I not have noticed! You're right Dylan, Brandon, Brenda and Kelly were all on that show.
Yes, it could be a regional thing!
Yes, it could be a regional thing!
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Re:I included more in my text
In case you're looking for a longer answer, I didnt want to post lots of links but I put a few things to google that lead to some threads and more info
In case you're looking for a longer answer, I didnt want to post lots of links but I put a few things to google that lead to some threads and more info
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