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in reply to a message by Nanaea
Can anyone here find similar laws, currently in existence and anywhere in the world, which define what parents may or may not name their children? It'd be interesting to see what kind of list we might be able to compile.
-- Nanaea
-- Nanaea
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I don't know if the following is what you are looking for, but here goes:
On Oprah one day a few years ago, this girl and her mom were on the show because the daughter had the longest name in the world at the time, according to The Guiness Book of World Records. Her mom wanted to give her girl an unusual name that nobody could or would ever try to name thier child. So she combine something like 60 names end to end and had to request an additional piece of paper to fit it all on.
The poor girl had to listen to a tape recording of her mother saying her name in order for her to learn it. Oddly enough, she went by the first name in the series, and it was something common like Mary.
Because of this case, the hospital people went to court or something and it is now a law in whatever state she lives in that in naming your child, the name must fit on the origional page of the birth certificate. Details and specifics are lacking, I know, but as I said it was several years ago that I watched this show.
On Oprah one day a few years ago, this girl and her mom were on the show because the daughter had the longest name in the world at the time, according to The Guiness Book of World Records. Her mom wanted to give her girl an unusual name that nobody could or would ever try to name thier child. So she combine something like 60 names end to end and had to request an additional piece of paper to fit it all on.
The poor girl had to listen to a tape recording of her mother saying her name in order for her to learn it. Oddly enough, she went by the first name in the series, and it was something common like Mary.
Because of this case, the hospital people went to court or something and it is now a law in whatever state she lives in that in naming your child, the name must fit on the origional page of the birth certificate. Details and specifics are lacking, I know, but as I said it was several years ago that I watched this show.
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That's a good one, 'Cole! Can you find an online reference to this story?
Thanks for contributing!
-- Nanaea
Thanks for contributing!
-- Nanaea
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Countries where the separation of church and state is non-existent or blurred are usual candidates. But I can think of one glaring exception: In France , a country celebrated for its republic, the state has strict regulations over the suitability of names.
I remember a news item of two or three years ago. A French family with the name Renault decided to name their daughter Megane. The authorities intervened, because "Renault Megane" is a French automobile, and they decreed that it would be inappropriate as a human name. I am afraid I wasn't able to find a reference on Google.
I remember a news item of two or three years ago. A French family with the name Renault decided to name their daughter Megane. The authorities intervened, because "Renault Megane" is a French automobile, and they decreed that it would be inappropriate as a human name. I am afraid I wasn't able to find a reference on Google.
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More...
http://cartalk.cars.com/Mail/Letters/01-31-97/10.html
By the way this is a great site! I used to be a fanatic listener of the Car Talk radio show during my US stint!
http://cartalk.cars.com/Mail/Letters/01-31-97/10.html
By the way this is a great site! I used to be a fanatic listener of the Car Talk radio show during my US stint!
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Hey, Oh Greek One...
Pavlos
If your computer has a place for either speakers or earphones and a relatively good sound card, you can still listen to Car Talk over your computer (and at your convenience). You can return to your former fanaticism if you really want. ;)
Perhaps you already know about it. :shrug:
Phyllis (aka Sidhe Uaine or Gaia Euphoria)
Pavlos
If your computer has a place for either speakers or earphones and a relatively good sound card, you can still listen to Car Talk over your computer (and at your convenience). You can return to your former fanaticism if you really want. ;)
Perhaps you already know about it. :shrug:
Phyllis (aka Sidhe Uaine or Gaia Euphoria)
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Many thanks for the tip Gaia :) You made my Sunday!
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The French must be loosening up a bit at last...
They at least seem now to be rescinding those old name laws of theirs. Here's a PROMPT translation from the Legislation section of the French baby-name site: http://meilleursprenoms.com/
The French legislation on the first names France restricted a long time the freedom of choice of the first names. During the Revolution, the French laws limited the range of choice of a first name to those of the calendar and the established list. (Law of Germinal 11th, the year XI). The first names which were not enough conformist had no luck(chance) to be accepted by the civil servants of State.
Law of Germinal 11th the year XI: " the used names in the various calendars, and those of the celebrities in the ancient(former) history can be only received, as first names, on state registers intended to notice the birth of the children; and it is forbidden to the public officers to admit it no other one in their acts. "
The ministerial Instruction of April 12th, 1966 marks the first stage towards the opening. This last one indeed admitted that " the force of the custom, in the material(subject), appreciably widened the limits initially assigned to the admissibility of the first names by the literal prescriptions of the law of Germinal 11th the year XI. "
The ministerial Instruction of April 12th, 1966 thus widens the directory of acceptable first names in first names pulled(fired) by the mythology, the régionnaux first names, the compound first names, tolerating even in certain cases diminutives and variations.
The order of the Court of Appeal of June 10th, 1981 follows close by the ministerial Instruction of April 12th, 1966 by deciding that " the relatives(parents) can notably choose as first names, under the general reserve that in interest of the child they are considered ridiculous, the used names in the various calendars and, while there is no official list of the authorized first names, he(it) does not there take place to require(demand) that the called calendar emanates from an official authority. "
But it is since 1993, with the Article 57 of the Civil code, (Titre II, chapter), that the law most considerably softened its legislation, guaranteeing virtually the acceptability of any first name.
They at least seem now to be rescinding those old name laws of theirs. Here's a PROMPT translation from the Legislation section of the French baby-name site: http://meilleursprenoms.com/
The French legislation on the first names France restricted a long time the freedom of choice of the first names. During the Revolution, the French laws limited the range of choice of a first name to those of the calendar and the established list. (Law of Germinal 11th, the year XI). The first names which were not enough conformist had no luck(chance) to be accepted by the civil servants of State.
Law of Germinal 11th the year XI: " the used names in the various calendars, and those of the celebrities in the ancient(former) history can be only received, as first names, on state registers intended to notice the birth of the children; and it is forbidden to the public officers to admit it no other one in their acts. "
The ministerial Instruction of April 12th, 1966 marks the first stage towards the opening. This last one indeed admitted that " the force of the custom, in the material(subject), appreciably widened the limits initially assigned to the admissibility of the first names by the literal prescriptions of the law of Germinal 11th the year XI. "
The ministerial Instruction of April 12th, 1966 thus widens the directory of acceptable first names in first names pulled(fired) by the mythology, the régionnaux first names, the compound first names, tolerating even in certain cases diminutives and variations.
The order of the Court of Appeal of June 10th, 1981 follows close by the ministerial Instruction of April 12th, 1966 by deciding that " the relatives(parents) can notably choose as first names, under the general reserve that in interest of the child they are considered ridiculous, the used names in the various calendars and, while there is no official list of the authorized first names, he(it) does not there take place to require(demand) that the called calendar emanates from an official authority. "
But it is since 1993, with the Article 57 of the Civil code, (Titre II, chapter), that the law most considerably softened its legislation, guaranteeing virtually the acceptability of any first name.
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Cool :)
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