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in reply to a message by Chrisell
This is not a book for which I'm being paid for, so if I dare to think aloud is because I'm here to try to help others in the way I've been myself helped... ok?
"I give life without final declarations and leave others to vivisect my posts;
I suppose you mean dissection, since your post is not a live animal"
Yes, that's what I meant, but I used a metaphore... you know what that is? don't ya? vivisect has it's own cogante in Spanish so I do know what it means.
I wont bore me more about your "understanding" of what "non-sense" and "blind guessing" is.
"Hmm - you seem to think that by insulting me you can get out of being corrected. I have been on this site for over a year"
Nope, I do not use such methods as the "ad hominem" falacy, I was just telling you to think about the way you have treated me, 'cause you haev insulted first... And I've been here more than that... Just recently I began using my name because just recently I felt I was ready to hold my position on my name and earn it a reputation... But I get to find your quarrelsome manners and my reputation gets onto the court immediatly...
"I do share the role of maintaining the standards of expected behaviour from posters."
That's what I mean about "bossing around", then you call other people "trolls"
"A number of other people have told you the same thing" Only you and Magia have directed your comments against me.
"rather than fitting in with the accepted behavioural mores at that site."
Read yourself, that is a nazi speaking... My behaviour is logical, nothing more and nothing less... Tradition was made for people who wanted to be free of the duty of thinking logically about what is right or wrong.
"Quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of people asking honest questions on this board and getting in response one of your chaotic, inaccurate, unreadable, unhelpful, obtuse, ambiguous and above all ANNOYING posts."
Quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of your bossy behaviour likewise, and of your RUDE AND ANNOYING yelling and annoyment.
"If you don't like sticking to facts on the Facts Board, then go away."
These are the boards:
Name Facts Message Board
For fact-based posts or questions about names: meanings, history, popularity, usage, etc.
Name Opinions Message Board
For opinion-based posts or questions about names: baby name suggestions, character names, name aesthetics, etc.
Name Games Message Board
For name games: elimination, create-a-family, etc.
The Lounge
For any subject other than names.
Now... Is it not obvious? this board is about the meanings, history, popularity, usage and such things concerning names; facts are too relative words... The reamining boards are not pertinent.
If this chat had censorship I would have sent claim to the authorities to make them give a glimpse to your behaviour before saying any of all this I've said... If it were up to me... Neither would go away but both us would finally learn to cope with each other... but indeed the problem is mostly between us both... I find it trully annoying getting into our problem the rest of people drawn to the board for their own motives. Indeed, I wont say more on the theme... Bye.
"I give life without final declarations and leave others to vivisect my posts;
I suppose you mean dissection, since your post is not a live animal"
Yes, that's what I meant, but I used a metaphore... you know what that is? don't ya? vivisect has it's own cogante in Spanish so I do know what it means.
I wont bore me more about your "understanding" of what "non-sense" and "blind guessing" is.
"Hmm - you seem to think that by insulting me you can get out of being corrected. I have been on this site for over a year"
Nope, I do not use such methods as the "ad hominem" falacy, I was just telling you to think about the way you have treated me, 'cause you haev insulted first... And I've been here more than that... Just recently I began using my name because just recently I felt I was ready to hold my position on my name and earn it a reputation... But I get to find your quarrelsome manners and my reputation gets onto the court immediatly...
"I do share the role of maintaining the standards of expected behaviour from posters."
That's what I mean about "bossing around", then you call other people "trolls"
"A number of other people have told you the same thing" Only you and Magia have directed your comments against me.
"rather than fitting in with the accepted behavioural mores at that site."
Read yourself, that is a nazi speaking... My behaviour is logical, nothing more and nothing less... Tradition was made for people who wanted to be free of the duty of thinking logically about what is right or wrong.
"Quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of people asking honest questions on this board and getting in response one of your chaotic, inaccurate, unreadable, unhelpful, obtuse, ambiguous and above all ANNOYING posts."
Quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of your bossy behaviour likewise, and of your RUDE AND ANNOYING yelling and annoyment.
"If you don't like sticking to facts on the Facts Board, then go away."
These are the boards:
Name Facts Message Board
For fact-based posts or questions about names: meanings, history, popularity, usage, etc.
Name Opinions Message Board
For opinion-based posts or questions about names: baby name suggestions, character names, name aesthetics, etc.
Name Games Message Board
For name games: elimination, create-a-family, etc.
The Lounge
For any subject other than names.
Now... Is it not obvious? this board is about the meanings, history, popularity, usage and such things concerning names; facts are too relative words... The reamining boards are not pertinent.
If this chat had censorship I would have sent claim to the authorities to make them give a glimpse to your behaviour before saying any of all this I've said... If it were up to me... Neither would go away but both us would finally learn to cope with each other... but indeed the problem is mostly between us both... I find it trully annoying getting into our problem the rest of people drawn to the board for their own motives. Indeed, I wont say more on the theme... Bye.
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I am sorry you have seen my attempts to communicate with you as "quarrelsome" and "bossy".
I see your behaviour as "quarrelsome" and "difficult", so don't think you're the unqualified good guy.
I have never called you a troll and I do not think you are one.
I have asked you to change your posting method because I am concerned that people might get confusing or inaccurate information from your posts.
I have also tried to point out that I would like to be able to access your etymological knowledge, but that I can't understand you when you write the way you do.
Rather than responding positively to my posts, you have a) become offended and b) ignored my advice. This, I admit, has led me to phrase my attempts in increasingly strong language, which is why we find ourselves arguing today.
This board is where we discuss the meanings, history, popularity, usage etc of names. But people are expected to have facts ready and waiting to support their opinions. I appreciate that you often do have facts that you are trying to share, but they get lost in the fanciful speculation and general mess of your posts.
Now do you understand where I'm coming from? If not, tell me that you don't understand, don't throw childish insults around.
I really want to be able to have good, friendly, factual discussions with you - it sounds like you have a lot of etymological knowledge to share. But you won't let me, you just keep posting the same way so that I can't understand you or communicate with you. Of course I'm upset and frustrated!
Please, if you reply to this, reply to what I say, not to your own ideas.
I see your behaviour as "quarrelsome" and "difficult", so don't think you're the unqualified good guy.
I have never called you a troll and I do not think you are one.
I have asked you to change your posting method because I am concerned that people might get confusing or inaccurate information from your posts.
I have also tried to point out that I would like to be able to access your etymological knowledge, but that I can't understand you when you write the way you do.
Rather than responding positively to my posts, you have a) become offended and b) ignored my advice. This, I admit, has led me to phrase my attempts in increasingly strong language, which is why we find ourselves arguing today.
This board is where we discuss the meanings, history, popularity, usage etc of names. But people are expected to have facts ready and waiting to support their opinions. I appreciate that you often do have facts that you are trying to share, but they get lost in the fanciful speculation and general mess of your posts.
Now do you understand where I'm coming from? If not, tell me that you don't understand, don't throw childish insults around.
I really want to be able to have good, friendly, factual discussions with you - it sounds like you have a lot of etymological knowledge to share. But you won't let me, you just keep posting the same way so that I can't understand you or communicate with you. Of course I'm upset and frustrated!
Please, if you reply to this, reply to what I say, not to your own ideas.
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Mutual effort
Well... Now I see your point... But see my point; I express myself, as best as I can, with a language I'm getting rusty with, which does work in the "behind the surname" forum without getting these answers about my ambiguity... The more I ponder on my proposals the more hard they seem to get for understanding... So I will try just giving the facts I'm relying upon and I will let the logical linking for you, then I will expect your answer, be it a "that's a good possibily [+/- but...]" or a "it's not pertinent because...". It's just that I find disagreeable something like "it's nonsense" when I do know that "I have assembled facts and knowledge [which may be both uncertain and debatable]" that I've earned over the years of being a lover of etymology (and mythology, and literature, and etc.)... Now do you udnerstand me? My problem is not being told I'm wrong, it's the way I'm told I'm wrong... That's all... Now... Both must give our own effort... Ok?
Well... Now I see your point... But see my point; I express myself, as best as I can, with a language I'm getting rusty with, which does work in the "behind the surname" forum without getting these answers about my ambiguity... The more I ponder on my proposals the more hard they seem to get for understanding... So I will try just giving the facts I'm relying upon and I will let the logical linking for you, then I will expect your answer, be it a "that's a good possibily [+/- but...]" or a "it's not pertinent because...". It's just that I find disagreeable something like "it's nonsense" when I do know that "I have assembled facts and knowledge [which may be both uncertain and debatable]" that I've earned over the years of being a lover of etymology (and mythology, and literature, and etc.)... Now do you udnerstand me? My problem is not being told I'm wrong, it's the way I'm told I'm wrong... That's all... Now... Both must give our own effort... Ok?
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Ok, I think we're on the same page now :-)
Sorry about the "nonsense" thing - I was getting frustrated, and I'm doing an annoying job at work, too, which didn't help my mood.
Sorry about the "nonsense" thing - I was getting frustrated, and I'm doing an annoying job at work, too, which didn't help my mood.
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:D "Hablando se entiende la gente" claims a Spanish Saying :D
I will let Magia make the translation, hope things will go on better from now on... "borron y cuenta nueva" (again, the honour is for Magia)... Bye.
I will let Magia make the translation, hope things will go on better from now on... "borron y cuenta nueva" (again, the honour is for Magia)... Bye.
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My pleasure...
Let's make a fresh start , then :o)
Let's make a fresh start , then :o)
This message was edited 11/3/2004, 6:57 AM
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Lol . . .
I babelfished it (www.altavista.com/babelfish/) and it gave me a very garbled answer! But I got the gist of it, anyway.
I babelfished it (www.altavista.com/babelfish/) and it gave me a very garbled answer! But I got the gist of it, anyway.
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