Re: You rang? (Mike C pls. take a note of this!)
in reply to a message by Pavlos
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Talents?
Hmm... sleeping with Aigisthos while her husband Agamemnon was solving problems within the family. And then when he returns home she prepares a bath for him, casts a net over him and stabs him to death! I would not exactly call that a talent. A corrupted nature would be a more fitting term, I think.
But her vile deed would not go unpinished...
Sofokles has written a great tragedy about that called "Elektra".
Hmm... sleeping with Aigisthos while her husband Agamemnon was solving problems within the family. And then when he returns home she prepares a bath for him, casts a net over him and stabs him to death! I would not exactly call that a talent. A corrupted nature would be a more fitting term, I think.
But her vile deed would not go unpinished...
Sofokles has written a great tragedy about that called "Elektra".
Well, let's look at it all from Clytemnestra's point of view -- from a mother's point of view (as well as from the point of view of any rational-thinking human being).
Your husband is hell-bent on making war, but his fun is spoilt when he can't get his darn ships out of the harbor. So he gets the brilliant idea of offering up your daughter -- your dear child -- to the gods as human sacrifice. How would you feel? Personally, I'd kill the bastard in a heartbeat.
-- Nanaea
Your husband is hell-bent on making war, but his fun is spoilt when he can't get his darn ships out of the harbor. So he gets the brilliant idea of offering up your daughter -- your dear child -- to the gods as human sacrifice. How would you feel? Personally, I'd kill the bastard in a heartbeat.
-- Nanaea
Well, sure, if I was thinking clearly at the time. ;)
-- Nanaea
-- Nanaea
I must disagree
Agamemnon had three daughters together with Clytemnestra: Elektra, Ifigenia and Chrysothemis. The incident you have in mind was the time when the Godess Artemis had caused the winds to blow no more i Aulis.
Artemis demanded a human sacrifice else the winds would not more again. According to some sources Agamemnon had to sacrifice his daughter, but according to others Artemis stopped him just before he killed her and offered a hind to take her place.
This incident is not about Agamemnons cruel nature. It is a tale about the Gods testing the loyalty of their chosen ones. A parallel example exists in the old testament where Gods asks Abraham to sacrifice Joseph . That Abraham accepts to undertake this bloody deed is not a tale about his cruelty or wicked nature, but a tale of God testing the loyalty of his chosen people.
One could ask why Agamemnon was at Aulis in the first place?
That ha was because he was coming to his brother's aid. During the wedding of Peleus and Thetis the goddess of bickering Eris had not been invited. She then threw a golden apple into the room where the party was upon which was written "For the most beautiful" both Hera , Athena and Afrodit wanted the apple and made the innocent Paris be the judge. Yet they all tried to bribe him. Hera would give him the greatest of kingdoms, Athena would give him wisdom, while Afrodit would give him the most beautiful woman in the world.
Agamemnon had three daughters together with Clytemnestra: Elektra, Ifigenia and Chrysothemis. The incident you have in mind was the time when the Godess Artemis had caused the winds to blow no more i Aulis.
Artemis demanded a human sacrifice else the winds would not more again. According to some sources Agamemnon had to sacrifice his daughter, but according to others Artemis stopped him just before he killed her and offered a hind to take her place.
This incident is not about Agamemnons cruel nature. It is a tale about the Gods testing the loyalty of their chosen ones. A parallel example exists in the old testament where Gods asks Abraham to sacrifice Joseph . That Abraham accepts to undertake this bloody deed is not a tale about his cruelty or wicked nature, but a tale of God testing the loyalty of his chosen people.
One could ask why Agamemnon was at Aulis in the first place?
That ha was because he was coming to his brother's aid. During the wedding of Peleus and Thetis the goddess of bickering Eris had not been invited. She then threw a golden apple into the room where the party was upon which was written "For the most beautiful" both Hera , Athena and Afrodit wanted the apple and made the innocent Paris be the judge. Yet they all tried to bribe him. Hera would give him the greatest of kingdoms, Athena would give him wisdom, while Afrodit would give him the most beautiful woman in the world.
"This incident is not about Agamemnons cruel nature. It is a tale about the Gods testing the loyalty of their chosen ones."
******Which explains why I am a Satanist.
-- Nanaea
******Which explains why I am a Satanist.
-- Nanaea
Isak I mean :)
Did I say Joseph *embarassed smile*
I meant Isak of course!
Silly me.
As a final word on Clytemnestra one could say that she not held all of the blame in this matter, for this whole sad situation came from forgetting to invited the goddess of bickering and the vanity of the immortals...
Did I say Joseph *embarassed smile*
I meant Isak of course!
Silly me.
As a final word on Clytemnestra one could say that she not held all of the blame in this matter, for this whole sad situation came from forgetting to invited the goddess of bickering and the vanity of the immortals...
Selwyn
Discordia wasn't the goddess of bickering, per se. She was more of a goddess of chaos and discord if I recall (but this is more of Pavlos 's "area" than mine, I think). :D
By the way, I think Isaac is how it's spelled in the Old Testament, not Isak. *another embarassed smile* I should know since I helped teach in a religious school about ten years ago, and one of the student's name's was Isaac .
Phyllis (aka Sidhe Uaine or Gaia Euphoria)
Discordia wasn't the goddess of bickering, per se. She was more of a goddess of chaos and discord if I recall (but this is more of Pavlos 's "area" than mine, I think). :D
By the way, I think Isaac is how it's spelled in the Old Testament, not Isak. *another embarassed smile* I should know since I helped teach in a religious school about ten years ago, and one of the student's name's was Isaac .
Phyllis (aka Sidhe Uaine or Gaia Euphoria)
Nanaea the ultimate killing machine :))))