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I noticed that some Sakizaya names were anonymously submitted, included such gems as a Sakizaya name for Charlemagne or Aristotle.
Some background: The Sakizaya are a group of indigenous people of Taiwan, with less than 1000 native speakers. Nevertheless, there is a Sakizaya Wikipedia online wherefrom the names are obviously sourced.
My question is about the validity of these names: Can we really claim those names are "used" outside their Wikipedia articles, or are they just inventions of the author of that articles and probably "non-notable literary use"?
Some background: The Sakizaya are a group of indigenous people of Taiwan, with less than 1000 native speakers. Nevertheless, there is a Sakizaya Wikipedia online wherefrom the names are obviously sourced.
My question is about the validity of these names: Can we really claim those names are "used" outside their Wikipedia articles, or are they just inventions of the author of that articles and probably "non-notable literary use"?
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They're probably only meant as translations of historical figures' names. Same goes for mythological ones. For example, the Portuguese form of Cerberus is Cérbero, but I've never heard it used as a name. Even in Brazil, where a lot of names that are strictly historical or mythological in Portugal have been given to real people, there are limits to it.
I don't know anything about the Sakizaya people, but I'm pretty sure that they have no historical connection to Charlemagne an Aristotle, as Franks and ancient Greeks had no contact with Taiwan.
I don't know anything about the Sakizaya people, but I'm pretty sure that they have no historical connection to Charlemagne an Aristotle, as Franks and ancient Greeks had no contact with Taiwan.
This message was edited 11/25/2023, 11:19 AM
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I would say delete the anonymous ones, the Wikipedia articles aren't even a good source–they're just transliterated from the Chinese transliterations of these names. I also can't find any sources for these names besides the Wikipedia articles and the sites that link to them, and besides Si-mung, that is all I get in a verbatim search as well. Lastly, Pi-de-ta-di’ is straight up an error–it is not just Peter, it is a transliteration of Chinese 彼得大帝 which means "Peter the Great".
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OK, this is enough reason for deletion. I have already done it.
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There is, with the most certainty, not any Sakizaya person with the names Charlemagne or Aristotle, for example. Those are likely translations for those names if read in a book by the Sakizaya people and as such I, personally, would not include them in the database.
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