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ArchivesMy column on the top USA names of 2021 (#1's are Liam and Sophia)
Here is today's column:
https://omaha.com/lifestyles/cleveland-evans-liam-olivia-top-us-baby-name-lists-in-2021/article_7d9b6ff8-d6dc-11ec-b93c-a72313e5cfb7.html
If you read the whole article you will see their headline is wrong. When you add spellings together Sophia, not Olivia, is still #1 and at present rates of decrease and increase will still be until 2025.
That may partly be my fault since I forgot to include the totals for Olivia in my spellings added together list. In 2021 there were 19,969 girls named Sophia, Sofia, Sophiya, etc. and 19,249 named Olivia, Alivia, Olyvia, etc.
https://omaha.com/lifestyles/cleveland-evans-liam-olivia-top-us-baby-name-lists-in-2021/article_7d9b6ff8-d6dc-11ec-b93c-a72313e5cfb7.html
If you read the whole article you will see their headline is wrong. When you add spellings together Sophia, not Olivia, is still #1 and at present rates of decrease and increase will still be until 2025.
That may partly be my fault since I forgot to include the totals for Olivia in my spellings added together list. In 2021 there were 19,969 girls named Sophia, Sofia, Sophiya, etc. and 19,249 named Olivia, Alivia, Olyvia, etc.
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I don't like the combined spelling lists for many reasons.
1. To me Allison and Alison or Lilly and Lily aren't really the same name. Yes, they sound the same, but give me totally different vibes and images.
2. They always combine names that I (and I would guess most people) wouldn't pronounce the same so they are not accurate. Such as Mya and Mia. Or Myla and Mila.
I much prefer the non-combined lists and it always annoys me that the German one combines spellings because they add names together that hardly anyone in Germany says the same way such as Emily and Emilie (but Emely is counted separately?) and so on.
1. To me Allison and Alison or Lilly and Lily aren't really the same name. Yes, they sound the same, but give me totally different vibes and images.
2. They always combine names that I (and I would guess most people) wouldn't pronounce the same so they are not accurate. Such as Mya and Mia. Or Myla and Mila.
I much prefer the non-combined lists and it always annoys me that the German one combines spellings because they add names together that hardly anyone in Germany says the same way such as Emily and Emilie (but Emely is counted separately?) and so on.
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There is no way to eliminate subjectivity in combining spellings. This is especially true in the girls' list, where there are many examples of spellings which are pronounced in more than one way and popular names which differ only by one vowel sound. And of course there are differences in common pronunciations between countries. In English speaking countries with rhotic accents (USA and Canada), it would not be appropriate to combine Taylor and Tayla. In Australia and most of England, which are non-rhotic, most people will pronounce those the same and will see them as two different spellings of the same name. And of course when one is looking at countries with other languages you are going to have even more different ideas on what spellings are pronounced the same. It would be extremely inappropriate to make exactly the same decisions on what to combine in Germany, France, and the USA.
Maya and Mia are normally pronounced differently in the USA. There are quite a few girls out there named Miya and Miyah. I am sure that some of the parents who use these spellings are pronouncing them like Maya and some like Mia. There's no way to know what the %'s are. Personally I put Miya with Mia and Miyah with Maya and hope it all evens out.
By the way, I personally do NOT combine Mya and Mia or Myla and Mila. Mya goes with Maya, not Mia, in my combined lists.
I think both kinds of lists are needed. I think a great many expectant parents do not agree with you and see Allison and Alison and Lilly and Lily as just two different spellings of names that are really the same.
Maya and Mia are normally pronounced differently in the USA. There are quite a few girls out there named Miya and Miyah. I am sure that some of the parents who use these spellings are pronouncing them like Maya and some like Mia. There's no way to know what the %'s are. Personally I put Miya with Mia and Miyah with Maya and hope it all evens out.
By the way, I personally do NOT combine Mya and Mia or Myla and Mila. Mya goes with Maya, not Mia, in my combined lists.
I think both kinds of lists are needed. I think a great many expectant parents do not agree with you and see Allison and Alison and Lilly and Lily as just two different spellings of names that are really the same.
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bruh 2025 is in like 3 years
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Yes. What is the point of this commnet?
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because that's in the future and plus i'm a kid and plus you said its for 2025 when it's in the future.
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I think you are misreading something. I pointed out that the headline is wrong. It should have said Sophia was #1. If Olivia ever is #1 when spellings are added together, that will be in the future. That's precisely what I am saying -- the future may be different, but the headline is NOT true for today.
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oh ok. i thought today was 2025 and i was like what...
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Great article, thank you for sharing! I like seeing the totals and rankings with combined spellings.
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