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does anyone know where this is from? The bearer was female of Filipino descent.
When everyone goes home, you're stuck with yourself - Layne Staley
When everyone goes home, you're stuck with yourself - Layne Staley
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Kinda off-topic, but a Dutch person like myself would pronounce the -ie- in Karolien as -ee- (also see Carolien). I'm surprised to hear that this isn't the case in Afrikaans, which is a daughter language of Dutch! I wonder how many of these little differences in pronunciation there must be. For example: is the -y- in Frankryk pronounced the same as the Dutch -ij- in Frankrijk, or also differently? I would pronounce Frankryk the same as Frankrijk, since Frankryk just seems like an archaic Dutch spelling to my eyes (which it actually is, too). But I realise now that I might be completely wrong to do so!
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When the Cape was colonised in the 17th century, it was purely for commercial purposes so there wasn't much interchange between the Cape and the Netherlands, and Afrikaans developed from a variety of Dutch dialects, each making its contribution. I don't know more than that, but apparently it was the case. In Afrikaans, the -ie- is shorter and higher (articulation point) than -ee-. Ryk would be identical with the English 'rake', except that the r is rolled.
The difference I notice the most is with double vowels: aa, ee, oo. In Dutch they sound like, well, long vowels, but in Afrikaans they are also long vowels but with a schwa at the end so they almost diphthongise. Een isn't een, it's eeƏn.
I must tell you, I've never learnt Dutch. I attended a short course on Middel-Nederlandse poësie, which I loved, and I can read Dutch slowly. Talking is impossible, I just use Afrikaans, which fascinates people! So there's obviously a lot I don't know.
My husband and I took a taxi once from Amsterdam station to our b&b; he took Afrikaans for four years at university and was doing pretty well until we got out and he thanked the driver: "Baie dankie." The driver burst out laughing: he'd been trying to place DH's dialect but couldn't, but of course those two very Afrikaans words were a complete give-away!
The difference I notice the most is with double vowels: aa, ee, oo. In Dutch they sound like, well, long vowels, but in Afrikaans they are also long vowels but with a schwa at the end so they almost diphthongise. Een isn't een, it's eeƏn.
I must tell you, I've never learnt Dutch. I attended a short course on Middel-Nederlandse poësie, which I loved, and I can read Dutch slowly. Talking is impossible, I just use Afrikaans, which fascinates people! So there's obviously a lot I don't know.
My husband and I took a taxi once from Amsterdam station to our b&b; he took Afrikaans for four years at university and was doing pretty well until we got out and he thanked the driver: "Baie dankie." The driver burst out laughing: he'd been trying to place DH's dialect but couldn't, but of course those two very Afrikaans words were a complete give-away!
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