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in reply to a message by Andy
It is just that I find it a lot more simple. Michael = "who is like God", meaning that Michael, the Arch angel, was created by God to His own image, warrior against evil, like God is, beautiful in image and character, like God is. Of all warriors and beautiful creatures, Michael is the one who comes closest to being like God. So when making it a rhetorical question "who is like God" you have 2 possible Answers, 1.- "no one is", for the belief that no one is like God or 2.- "I am" -since I was named after arch angel Michael, who is like God-
The part I find weird (as in I don't get it) is this,
"implies: Only the living God could help me in my trouble of having no children"... (is that really implied?) and that neighbour story which is now, followed by Anneza's comparison to someone wanting his/her - son to go through life with a Yah! Boo! Sucks! name-...
I never heard about Michael being a former god, so that is new to me. But again, there is that implication by Andy: RAFFAEL "God has healed (me from being childless)". All I see is "God has healed", be it healed for whatever specific case the parents see fit. Or maybe no reason at all. God has healed, because that is what He does...???
It felt like I owed more to my comment than just leaving at "weird answer". By no means did I intend to be disrespectful :o)
Magia.
The part I find weird (as in I don't get it) is this,
"implies: Only the living God could help me in my trouble of having no children"... (is that really implied?) and that neighbour story which is now, followed by Anneza's comparison to someone wanting his/her - son to go through life with a Yah! Boo! Sucks! name-...
I never heard about Michael being a former god, so that is new to me. But again, there is that implication by Andy: RAFFAEL "God has healed (me from being childless)". All I see is "God has healed", be it healed for whatever specific case the parents see fit. Or maybe no reason at all. God has healed, because that is what He does...???
It felt like I owed more to my comment than just leaving at "weird answer". By no means did I intend to be disrespectful :o)
Magia.
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Hi!
I think we are talking about two different questions:
1. What was the original name giving motive?
2. Why was the archangel later called Michael?
ad 1.: Old Testament scholars agree in saying that it was a name first given by parents praising God.
ad 2.: I haven’t read anything about this, but it is sure worth considering, whether maybe the name was given to the archangel due to some tradition that existed before. And maybe in doing this the personal name was re-interpreted the way suggested. I will try to find out whether there is any evidence for this. But if you start talking about God himself bestowing the name on the real archangel, I’ll be out of the game, I’m afraid …
RAFFAEL: Of course all the name says is: “God has healed.” We have to complete the sentence, but talking about a child’s name, we’ll have to think of the child: Either the child was sick and has now been healed (this would have to be a very instant sort of healing as names were usually given right after birth), or else it would be the mother who was healed. But why would she name the child Raffael if the healing didn’t have anything to do with the child? Or am I on the wrong track and there are other options I just don’t see?
Andy ;—)
I think we are talking about two different questions:
1. What was the original name giving motive?
2. Why was the archangel later called Michael?
ad 1.: Old Testament scholars agree in saying that it was a name first given by parents praising God.
ad 2.: I haven’t read anything about this, but it is sure worth considering, whether maybe the name was given to the archangel due to some tradition that existed before. And maybe in doing this the personal name was re-interpreted the way suggested. I will try to find out whether there is any evidence for this. But if you start talking about God himself bestowing the name on the real archangel, I’ll be out of the game, I’m afraid …
RAFFAEL: Of course all the name says is: “God has healed.” We have to complete the sentence, but talking about a child’s name, we’ll have to think of the child: Either the child was sick and has now been healed (this would have to be a very instant sort of healing as names were usually given right after birth), or else it would be the mother who was healed. But why would she name the child Raffael if the healing didn’t have anything to do with the child? Or am I on the wrong track and there are other options I just don’t see?
Andy ;—)
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