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thanks for repling....
to follow your thought, that's why i was drawn to the book ('What to name the baby: a treasury of names' by Evelyn Wells) after borrowing it from a library many a time...this writer did research and at the time one of the only book that didn't say "...name you child MADONNA after the popular singer..."....not my idea of meaning..?

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this was a passing thought explored
OneWorldTree geneology records have vanessa as a surname (in the UK)

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i won't keep you on this subject, for there are soon many more, feel better soon..shannon