Re: Yessica
(I also have problems with the IPA symbols.)First at all, I never said that the letter LL is always pronounced as /j/ in every Spanish dialect, because that is not true (and, for instance, not for my dialect). The correct pronunciation of the LL is a palatal lateral approximant:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatal_lateral_approximantThe pronunciation of the Y is a palatal:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_palatal_fricativeor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatal_approximantdepending on the context.It is very usual in some areas (in Spain, for instance) that LL and Y are pronounced just as Y. And that is also true for Mexico:"Yeísmo: Del mismo modo, no se diferencia la pronunciación de y y ll; ambas son una aproximante palatal sonora /j/ como la y del español estándar."
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialecto_mexicano#Fon.C3.A9tica_y_fonolog.C3.ADaThe only exception to these pronunciations is in the Rioplatense dialect (Uruguay and some areas of Argentina, as Buenos Aires), where Y and LL were pronounced with the sound of the French J (ZH) or, and this pronunciation is growing up among the young generations, with the sound of the English SH. Perhaps they were pronouncing the palatal /j/ in the affricate allophone and to English ears that sounded as an English J (like when I hear the English vowels and distribute the sounds not like they really are but matching with my vocalic distribution).Lumia
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Yessica  ·  mermaidwriter1000  ·  4/20/2009, 8:42 AM
Re: Yessica  ·  ADT  ·  4/22/2009, 10:05 AM
Sorry, but that is just wrong  ·  Lumia  ·  4/22/2009, 10:54 AM
Or perhaps, since you are Polish,  ·  Lumia  ·  4/22/2009, 11:09 AM
Re: Or perhaps, since you are Polish,  ·  ADT  ·  4/22/2009, 7:38 PM
Re: Or perhaps, since you are Polish,  ·  Lumia  ·  4/23/2009, 1:26 AM
Re: Yessica  ·  Lumia  ·  4/20/2009, 1:35 PM
Re: Yessica  ·  ClaudiaS  ·  4/20/2009, 12:43 PM
Re: Yessica  ·  Lumia  ·  4/20/2009, 1:42 PM
Re: Yessica  ·  ClaudiaS  ·  4/20/2009, 2:21 PM
Re: Yessica  ·  Lumia  ·  4/20/2009, 4:00 PM
Re: Yessica  ·  genis  ·  4/21/2009, 8:54 AM
Re: Yessica  ·  mermaidwriter1000  ·  4/20/2009, 1:02 PM