Re: Pronunciation of -iva and Maria, CKE
in reply to a message by Cleveland Kent Evans
Good summary! Just one question (to you and anyone else who might know): in the States, do you or did you ever refer to a police vehicle (for transporting suspects, prisoners etc) as a Black Maria? In that phrase, which must be quite elderly by now as they most assuredly aren't black any more, Maria has its -eye- sound with no need for an H. And in South Africa - perhaps elsewhere - it's fashionable among Black namers to put an H on the end of just about any female name that ends in A. So we see Dianah, Annah, Vinoliah, Emmah and so on. No pronunciation issues at all; probably a generalisation from biblical names like Hannah, Susannah, Rebekah etc.
Vinoliah is a particular favourite of mine: there's a brand of soap here called Vinolia, and parents might be responding to its "exclusive" image ...
As for Linniva, I was at school with someone whose sister was Lynneve; I always liked it and assumed it was an inside-out version of Evelyn; now I'm starting to wonder!
Vinoliah is a particular favourite of mine: there's a brand of soap here called Vinolia, and parents might be responding to its "exclusive" image ...
As for Linniva, I was at school with someone whose sister was Lynneve; I always liked it and assumed it was an inside-out version of Evelyn; now I'm starting to wonder!
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I have heard the phrase "Black Maria" myself, but I think only in TV shows or movies which are set in England. It's not a term that's part of everyday American English today, I think.