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in reply to a message by Silver
OK - when I think of death, I think how somebody's heart stops beating. When the Slavs thought of death, they imagined Morana/Marena coming and causing a person to stop living. Generally, Morana's job was to take human lives - something like the Western Death that goes around with a scythe. Chernobog was the god of death, darkness, evil, etc., he ruled the underworld and what not, but Morena did the dirty job of "physically" taking lives. In a sentence, Chernobog was the one who would wish for somebody to die and send the death, Morana would be the death that... hmmm... caused people to die.
On the creation story, Rod is the one that came out of the primordial egg, then he created the Earth, the Sky, the Underworld and Lada (a.k.a. Rodenica). Lada gave birth to the rest of the gods. Belobog was the one who along with his shadow (Chernobog) created the living things.
I am going to check my books on Slavic mythology tonight, and give you details on the gods you want. In the meantime, this website
http://www.geocities.com/cas111jd/slavs/index.htm contains a detailed (although not extremely reliable) info that might get you started.
On the creation story, Rod is the one that came out of the primordial egg, then he created the Earth, the Sky, the Underworld and Lada (a.k.a. Rodenica). Lada gave birth to the rest of the gods. Belobog was the one who along with his shadow (Chernobog) created the living things.
I am going to check my books on Slavic mythology tonight, and give you details on the gods you want. In the meantime, this website
http://www.geocities.com/cas111jd/slavs/index.htm contains a detailed (although not extremely reliable) info that might get you started.
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O lordy... or should i say Boggy...
Slavic mythology is messed
perhaps earlier familiarization with Greek, Roman and Egyptian Mythology, or better study on the subjects has lead to them being more clear and concise... but this is just insane.
They have several gods of one thing, eg. the sun, and sometimes mulitple names of one god, which in some texts is seen as the same god, and in other texts as a seperate god, and one god will rule over 5 things where another god will rule over 4 of those 5 things.
Like, roman and greek,
there is a god of love, and sun and moon and etc etc
none of this mumbo jumbo
but then perhaps someone coming into mythology with no prior knowledge would be confused with the true gods vs. demi gods, and the gods predessors, the titans, and titanesses
uhhhhh
soooo lost... so much work... just when i thought i was starting to understand this... well frankly bs...
aggg -falls over-
~SD
ty for the site tho... as much as im further confused... the more info i get, the more confusing it becomes... yea!!!
Slavic mythology is messed
perhaps earlier familiarization with Greek, Roman and Egyptian Mythology, or better study on the subjects has lead to them being more clear and concise... but this is just insane.
They have several gods of one thing, eg. the sun, and sometimes mulitple names of one god, which in some texts is seen as the same god, and in other texts as a seperate god, and one god will rule over 5 things where another god will rule over 4 of those 5 things.
Like, roman and greek,
there is a god of love, and sun and moon and etc etc
none of this mumbo jumbo
but then perhaps someone coming into mythology with no prior knowledge would be confused with the true gods vs. demi gods, and the gods predessors, the titans, and titanesses
uhhhhh
soooo lost... so much work... just when i thought i was starting to understand this... well frankly bs...
aggg -falls over-
~SD
ty for the site tho... as much as im further confused... the more info i get, the more confusing it becomes... yea!!!
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LOL! Just keep in mind that
there are 13 Slavic nations, and each of them inevitably has its own variation of the names of the gods, its own local gods, spirits and the like. At least they don't communicate (or mate :) with mortals to create the ancient Greek pandemonium of demi gods and heroes
there are 13 Slavic nations, and each of them inevitably has its own variation of the names of the gods, its own local gods, spirits and the like. At least they don't communicate (or mate :) with mortals to create the ancient Greek pandemonium of demi gods and heroes
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ill give em that much
the whole impregnating girls as a shower of gold thing (zeus) is just plane disturbing... and the girl in the cow.. and the bull.... -shivers-
they should not teach that in school!
Now, a good way to solve some issues, is there a way i can isolate a particular region of russia, say the region around St. Petersburg/Leningrad (same city). That's about Lativia right? Or... is there a nation in russia that has a more set mythology or religous structure, i mean like does anyone have an accurate website/source that deals with the mythology of just one of these nations
Perhaps certral russia would be best, less influence from the Balkans, Persians, and Norse religions, or u wouldnt believe how much the greeks got in there too.
Newho yea
~SD
the whole impregnating girls as a shower of gold thing (zeus) is just plane disturbing... and the girl in the cow.. and the bull.... -shivers-
they should not teach that in school!
Now, a good way to solve some issues, is there a way i can isolate a particular region of russia, say the region around St. Petersburg/Leningrad (same city). That's about Lativia right? Or... is there a nation in russia that has a more set mythology or religous structure, i mean like does anyone have an accurate website/source that deals with the mythology of just one of these nations
Perhaps certral russia would be best, less influence from the Balkans, Persians, and Norse religions, or u wouldnt believe how much the greeks got in there too.
Newho yea
~SD
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Here goes
Kupala/Kupalo - the deity of summer and plants (especially herbs). Some Slavic tribes view Kupala as a goddess, sister of Morana, and some - as a god (under the name of Kupalo), brother and husband of Morana. Anyways, according to the myth, every spring the god Jarilo/Yarilo comes to the human world to bring new life and abundant crops. He grows older as the day grows longer and on the day of the summer solstice (June 22nd), when the day is the longest, he turns into Kupalo - the god of summer. So, Kupalo is the adult Jarilo. The eve of June 22 is called Kupalo's eve. It is believed that that's a magic time - the trees have the power to speak and move and herbs and other medical plants collected that night have super healing powers. Kupalo stays around until around late September when he goes back to the svarga (the gods' world) and Marena takes over.
Lel - a minor god of love, son of Lada and twin brother of Lela. According to the myth, he is a young man dressed in white, with a flower wreath on his head. He is a companion of his mother Lada and the patron-god of marriage and family.
Morana/Morena - originally the goddess of winter and by default - the goddess of hunger, cold and death. Her name is derived from the Slavic "mor" - death. She is the sister of Kupalo, but, whereas he brings life, she brings death. She lives in the underworld with the souls of the dead (a.k.a. "mori") and ascends to the human world in the winter. According to the Slavs, that's why winters are cold, the grain and meat are scarce and death prevails. In the "divine hierarchy" she is under the ultimate master of darkness, Chernobog, but nevertheless, she possesses some wicked powers herself (buahahahaha!).
Ruevit - the god of the light and heat, protector of fertility and crops. To the Western Slavs he is known as Rugievit, as they believe he lives on Rugen (an island in the Blatic sea). Ruevit has seven heads, seven swords in his belt and one sword in his hands. Each of the seven heads and seven swords watch over and respectively protect the crops in each of the seven fertile months of the year. The Southern Slavs who used to grow vines and make wine, also consider him the parton god of wine-making.
Kupala/Kupalo - the deity of summer and plants (especially herbs). Some Slavic tribes view Kupala as a goddess, sister of Morana, and some - as a god (under the name of Kupalo), brother and husband of Morana. Anyways, according to the myth, every spring the god Jarilo/Yarilo comes to the human world to bring new life and abundant crops. He grows older as the day grows longer and on the day of the summer solstice (June 22nd), when the day is the longest, he turns into Kupalo - the god of summer. So, Kupalo is the adult Jarilo. The eve of June 22 is called Kupalo's eve. It is believed that that's a magic time - the trees have the power to speak and move and herbs and other medical plants collected that night have super healing powers. Kupalo stays around until around late September when he goes back to the svarga (the gods' world) and Marena takes over.
Lel - a minor god of love, son of Lada and twin brother of Lela. According to the myth, he is a young man dressed in white, with a flower wreath on his head. He is a companion of his mother Lada and the patron-god of marriage and family.
Morana/Morena - originally the goddess of winter and by default - the goddess of hunger, cold and death. Her name is derived from the Slavic "mor" - death. She is the sister of Kupalo, but, whereas he brings life, she brings death. She lives in the underworld with the souls of the dead (a.k.a. "mori") and ascends to the human world in the winter. According to the Slavs, that's why winters are cold, the grain and meat are scarce and death prevails. In the "divine hierarchy" she is under the ultimate master of darkness, Chernobog, but nevertheless, she possesses some wicked powers herself (buahahahaha!).
Ruevit - the god of the light and heat, protector of fertility and crops. To the Western Slavs he is known as Rugievit, as they believe he lives on Rugen (an island in the Blatic sea). Ruevit has seven heads, seven swords in his belt and one sword in his hands. Each of the seven heads and seven swords watch over and respectively protect the crops in each of the seven fertile months of the year. The Southern Slavs who used to grow vines and make wine, also consider him the parton god of wine-making.
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rock on
i could tell what u meant by Blatic, no worries
i think im am gonna have to give up !!Horosha!! a while cz mom spazed at me that i need to get my license, and therefore take a written test... (for all those who dont know getting ur lisense in ontario is and hard and stupid!)
i shall return!!
ty for the info Ivayla
I'll see how long this driver bs takes me,
~SD
i could tell what u meant by Blatic, no worries
i think im am gonna have to give up !!Horosha!! a while cz mom spazed at me that i need to get my license, and therefore take a written test... (for all those who dont know getting ur lisense in ontario is and hard and stupid!)
i shall return!!
ty for the info Ivayla
I'll see how long this driver bs takes me,
~SD
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Good luck on your driving test
I've been meaning to go take mine for a little over two months now, but I can't find the time to sit in line at the DMV. And since my Bulgarian licence is perfectly valid in California... aaagh, one day I'll be sorry for all that procrastination, but as my Irish friend says, "I cannot be bothered right now."
Anyways, good luck on your test
I've been meaning to go take mine for a little over two months now, but I can't find the time to sit in line at the DMV. And since my Bulgarian licence is perfectly valid in California... aaagh, one day I'll be sorry for all that procrastination, but as my Irish friend says, "I cannot be bothered right now."
Anyways, good luck on your test
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ty
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Ooops! It's the Baltic sea :(
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