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I'm not sure why this has come about, as i clearly explained this some time back. The computer used for all postings is in my home, our "Hang out" if you like.
We are a group of guys who met through college, originally part of a discussion group that continued after college finished. We all share (to one degree of another) a interest in Local history and began to examine the totality of what was so far researched? and realised with reference to East Anglia in particular there were gaps in the record. Especially, where place names were concerned. Whilst, i could determined the original meaning of a place name such as "X" meaning the tun of a man called Aca or the land where the people of Fremi lived etc. When a personal name was involved I decided to look further and frankly got stuck! on the Old English, Norse names of the era. As search as we might many of these single element names cannot be found.....
So I Bagpus (Paul) bought in Mark, Bobby (and yes, unfortunately that Really is his name!) Rod and several others to help on this, some of which have posted listings. As they drop in at various times, they all post there own listings, on this and many other sites. Each posting is run by each person, but anyone can answer a reply recieved. So no we can't combine them and there really would be no point.
I try to coordinate everything, but as i have recently had a baby with my partner (some two months early). The baby, who is sadly very, very sick has meant for the moment i have had to leave this all up to Mark and Bobby.
As to your comments and everyone's i say this - why assume the worst in life? can there not be a very good reason also for the things that happen? Is it wise to be judgemental of others? As for Mark and Bobby forgive their lack of experience, but give them constructive critism and not negative. If you guys have the right experience, then help them, point them in the right direction after all we all have to learn to walk before we can be expected to run, right? Some of things you (all) have said have proved very illuminating and helpfully, once we learn where we can find something, then we will be there.
If an enquiry seems trite to you (or anyone), it maybe that you have walked that path many times before and simply the others that come after you do not know the way yet....
Thank you all, for the help you have so far given and remember that perhaps the quality the best defines humans as being above all other species, is the fact that we can reach out and help others, not because we have to but simpley because we can! and I thought that was the "Spirit" of humanity that lives of these boards?
I hope this answers everyone's questions and that for the next "Rookie" that come along like Bobby, you encourage him, teach him and share your wisdom so that he can one day be in the same postition as you, with regards (Father) Bagpus
We are a group of guys who met through college, originally part of a discussion group that continued after college finished. We all share (to one degree of another) a interest in Local history and began to examine the totality of what was so far researched? and realised with reference to East Anglia in particular there were gaps in the record. Especially, where place names were concerned. Whilst, i could determined the original meaning of a place name such as "X" meaning the tun of a man called Aca or the land where the people of Fremi lived etc. When a personal name was involved I decided to look further and frankly got stuck! on the Old English, Norse names of the era. As search as we might many of these single element names cannot be found.....
So I Bagpus (Paul) bought in Mark, Bobby (and yes, unfortunately that Really is his name!) Rod and several others to help on this, some of which have posted listings. As they drop in at various times, they all post there own listings, on this and many other sites. Each posting is run by each person, but anyone can answer a reply recieved. So no we can't combine them and there really would be no point.
I try to coordinate everything, but as i have recently had a baby with my partner (some two months early). The baby, who is sadly very, very sick has meant for the moment i have had to leave this all up to Mark and Bobby.
As to your comments and everyone's i say this - why assume the worst in life? can there not be a very good reason also for the things that happen? Is it wise to be judgemental of others? As for Mark and Bobby forgive their lack of experience, but give them constructive critism and not negative. If you guys have the right experience, then help them, point them in the right direction after all we all have to learn to walk before we can be expected to run, right? Some of things you (all) have said have proved very illuminating and helpfully, once we learn where we can find something, then we will be there.
If an enquiry seems trite to you (or anyone), it maybe that you have walked that path many times before and simply the others that come after you do not know the way yet....
Thank you all, for the help you have so far given and remember that perhaps the quality the best defines humans as being above all other species, is the fact that we can reach out and help others, not because we have to but simpley because we can! and I thought that was the "Spirit" of humanity that lives of these boards?
I hope this answers everyone's questions and that for the next "Rookie" that come along like Bobby, you encourage him, teach him and share your wisdom so that he can one day be in the same postition as you, with regards (Father) Bagpus
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My Dear Bagpus and Friends,
There was no offense meant by my caveat regarding possible multiple identities and I hope none was taken. I think Miranda's note just prior to this post explains why I raised a concern (thank you, Miranda).
The group research situation you outline is quite understandable and I'm sure no one here has a quarrel with it. You apparently explained the situation on this board previously but I've been absent from here for about 18 months what with working away from home and various health issues. Other than that hiatus, I've been a regular on BtN since 1999 and, believe me, we've seen some weird goings-on among our visitors that now tend to make one cautious at times.
As a father and (maybe soon) grandfather, I was quite concerned to hear that your baby is so ill. We'll keep your family and especially Trinity in our thoughts and pray for a good outcome.
Dave
There was no offense meant by my caveat regarding possible multiple identities and I hope none was taken. I think Miranda's note just prior to this post explains why I raised a concern (thank you, Miranda).
The group research situation you outline is quite understandable and I'm sure no one here has a quarrel with it. You apparently explained the situation on this board previously but I've been absent from here for about 18 months what with working away from home and various health issues. Other than that hiatus, I've been a regular on BtN since 1999 and, believe me, we've seen some weird goings-on among our visitors that now tend to make one cautious at times.
As a father and (maybe soon) grandfather, I was quite concerned to hear that your baby is so ill. We'll keep your family and especially Trinity in our thoughts and pray for a good outcome.
Dave
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*Sigh*
We have had a lot of people who were really one person, but pretended to be two or more. (Our record's 23 false identities for one person, iirc.) In fact, this happens so often that I would estimate that 80-90% of all those "separate" people with the same IP are actually one person using multiple names... this is strictly against the rules, and is colloquially called MPDism around here.
Because of this, we all tend to automatically assume that two or more people who share the same IP are MPDs. We have to be told otherwise. Pavlos was not around when you explained your unique situation the first time, so he naturally assumed you and your gang were MPDs. He meant no harm, he was just cracking down on someone he thought might be a rule-breaker.
*MPD: Multiple Personality Disorder. Self-explanatory, methinks.
Miranda
"Six hours later I still haven't done my homework, but I did come up with 245 name combos, seven of which I might name my child." — Modified LJ icon quote
Proud adopter of 15 punctuation marks.
We have had a lot of people who were really one person, but pretended to be two or more. (Our record's 23 false identities for one person, iirc.) In fact, this happens so often that I would estimate that 80-90% of all those "separate" people with the same IP are actually one person using multiple names... this is strictly against the rules, and is colloquially called MPDism around here.
Because of this, we all tend to automatically assume that two or more people who share the same IP are MPDs. We have to be told otherwise. Pavlos was not around when you explained your unique situation the first time, so he naturally assumed you and your gang were MPDs. He meant no harm, he was just cracking down on someone he thought might be a rule-breaker.
*MPD: Multiple Personality Disorder. Self-explanatory, methinks.
"Six hours later I still haven't done my homework, but I did come up with 245 name combos, seven of which I might name my child." — Modified LJ icon quote
Proud adopter of 15 punctuation marks.
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> Pavlos was not around when you explained your unique situation the first time, so he naturally assumed you and your gang were MPDs
LOL, actually Daividh and I are MDPs (multiple *distinct* personalities :P)
Though skeptical I will give Bagpus et al the benefit of the doubt ... though we must admit that bona fide MPDs always come up with highly contrived excuses whose commmon denominator is that a bunch of friends post from the same 'puter. Geeks like that "Albanish" character come to mind.
LOL, actually Daividh and I are MDPs (multiple *distinct* personalities :P)
Though skeptical I will give Bagpus et al the benefit of the doubt ... though we must admit that bona fide MPDs always come up with highly contrived excuses whose commmon denominator is that a bunch of friends post from the same 'puter. Geeks like that "Albanish" character come to mind.
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Hi, Thank you for your mesage and further for the congratulations on becoming a father. This is really all i have time for at present, its now 2am here in England, Saturday morning. I spent most of the day at the hospital with dear - dear Trinity, for a man of no religion, i seem to be praying a lot recently, but still thats another story...
MPD, if only! i could be in two places at once and solve all my problems. Forgive me if i seem a bit stupid to ask this, but why do people use multiple names? I can't really see what would be achieved? after all if you have 4 things to ask, it takes a fraction of the time to post 1 listing of all 4 (under 1 name) as opposed to 4 listings (under 4 names) or am i overlooking something obvious?
Anyway Miranda, i would like to thank you for your thoughts on several names and information you provided on different sites, which proved very useful, as the boys become better at this, i expect all you will see from us is those elusive single element names from Old Norse/ Old English that we keep on searching to find a site that can explain them, but we just cannot seem to find a suitable site, idea's???
What does *Sigh* mean, obviously this could be read several ways? sigh of relief? i assume, anyway got to go now, ole girl not sure when i personally will be back on here, but all this best regards "Bagpus"
MPD, if only! i could be in two places at once and solve all my problems. Forgive me if i seem a bit stupid to ask this, but why do people use multiple names? I can't really see what would be achieved? after all if you have 4 things to ask, it takes a fraction of the time to post 1 listing of all 4 (under 1 name) as opposed to 4 listings (under 4 names) or am i overlooking something obvious?
Anyway Miranda, i would like to thank you for your thoughts on several names and information you provided on different sites, which proved very useful, as the boys become better at this, i expect all you will see from us is those elusive single element names from Old Norse/ Old English that we keep on searching to find a site that can explain them, but we just cannot seem to find a suitable site, idea's???
What does *Sigh* mean, obviously this could be read several ways? sigh of relief? i assume, anyway got to go now, ole girl not sure when i personally will be back on here, but all this best regards "Bagpus"
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"Sigh of tiredness", actually. I don't know if it's just me or not, but lately it seems that we've gotten a bit more of board policy related drama than is usual. (We've also had a jump in true MPDs recently, which I think may be related to it being April school break in some areas.) It gets tiresome after a while, you know?
I'm sorry to hear about Trinity. :-( Try to keep faith, babies can really surprise you sometimes. :-)
We wager that most MPDs are bored teenagers looking to see if they can deceive a board. And if so, how long they can keep the charade up for. It's a game to them, really. Others show signs of having deeper problems... And still others are simply ignorant of the rules, but that grates on the regulars too since the rules are pretty darn easy to find imo, if you took the time to simply look a (very) little bit.
EDIT: A bit of rewording and a touch of expansion, for clarity
Miranda
"Six hours later I still haven't done my homework, but I did come up with 245 name combos, seven of which I might name my child." — Modified LJ icon quote
Proud adopter of 15 punctuation marks.
I'm sorry to hear about Trinity. :-( Try to keep faith, babies can really surprise you sometimes. :-)
We wager that most MPDs are bored teenagers looking to see if they can deceive a board. And if so, how long they can keep the charade up for. It's a game to them, really. Others show signs of having deeper problems... And still others are simply ignorant of the rules, but that grates on the regulars too since the rules are pretty darn easy to find imo, if you took the time to simply look a (very) little bit.
EDIT: A bit of rewording and a touch of expansion, for clarity
"Six hours later I still haven't done my homework, but I did come up with 245 name combos, seven of which I might name my child." — Modified LJ icon quote
Proud adopter of 15 punctuation marks.
This message was edited 5/6/2005, 7:12 PM
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Attn:- Miranda
Miranda, I read what Baggie wrote and can't really add anything, except to say we were really unaware of this MPD thing, but we think the real giveaway is in the questions posed, i assume that not many school children on holiday are interested in Old Norse!
As we aquire more reference books and sites many names have been resolved before searching on this site, we have a wonderful book called the Revised Medievil Latin word list, this is excellent for finding many obscure elements and Mark has a Old Norse reader. Baggie is right we are just rookies (or do they call them freshmen in America?) in terms of this but we are learning. Forgive me if i ask what may seem obvious questions sometimes, after going around in circles for ages me and Mark just couldn't find the meaning of the name Wend, so finally we ran the enquiry on this board, we do try to find these, perhaps we not always successful in our searches, but thanks to your information we are now one step closer, cheers Miranda
Miranda, I read what Baggie wrote and can't really add anything, except to say we were really unaware of this MPD thing, but we think the real giveaway is in the questions posed, i assume that not many school children on holiday are interested in Old Norse!
As we aquire more reference books and sites many names have been resolved before searching on this site, we have a wonderful book called the Revised Medievil Latin word list, this is excellent for finding many obscure elements and Mark has a Old Norse reader. Baggie is right we are just rookies (or do they call them freshmen in America?) in terms of this but we are learning. Forgive me if i ask what may seem obvious questions sometimes, after going around in circles for ages me and Mark just couldn't find the meaning of the name Wend, so finally we ran the enquiry on this board, we do try to find these, perhaps we not always successful in our searches, but thanks to your information we are now one step closer, cheers Miranda
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