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Ligia is the latin version of Lygia. For more see "Quo Vadis?"
Here the relevant part of Quo Vadis:
"With whom, then?"
"If I knew myself with whom? But I do not know to a certainty her
name even, -- Lygia or Calhina? They call her Lygia in the house,
for she comes of the Lygian nation; but she has her own barbarian
name, Callina. It is a wonderful house, -- that of those Plautiuses.
There are many people in it; but it is quiet there as in the groves of
Subiacum. For a number of days I did not know that a divinity
dwelt in the house. Once about daybreak I saw her bathing in the
garden fountain; and I swear to thee by that foam from which
Aphrodite rose, that the rays of the dawn passed right through her
body. I thought that when the sun rose she would vanish before me
in the light, as the twilight of morning does. Since then, I have
seen her twice; and since then, too, I know not what rest is, I know
not what other desires are, I have no wish to know what the city
can give me. I want neither women, nor gold, nor Corinthian
bronze, nor amber, nor pearls, nor wine, nor feasts; I want only
Lygia. I am yearning for her, in sincerity I tell thee, Petronius, as
that Dream who is imaged on the Mosaic of thy tepidarium
yearned for Paisythea, -- whole days and night do I yearn."
"If she is a slave, then purchase her."
"She is not a slave."
"What is she? A freed woman of Plautius?"
"Never having been a slave, she could not be a freed woman."
"Who is she?"
"I know not, -- a king's daughter, or something of that sort."
"Thou dost rouse my curiosity, Vinicius."
"But if thou wish to listen, I will satisfy thy curiosity straightway.
Her story is not a long one. Thou art acquainted, perhaps
personally, with Vannius, king of the Suevi, who, expelled from
his country, spent a long time here in Rome, and became even
famous for his skilful play with dice, and his good driving of
chariots. Drusus put him on the throne again. Vannius, who was
really a strong man, ruled well at first, and warred with success;
Here the relevant part of Quo Vadis:
"With whom, then?"
"If I knew myself with whom? But I do not know to a certainty her
name even, -- Lygia or Calhina? They call her Lygia in the house,
for she comes of the Lygian nation; but she has her own barbarian
name, Callina. It is a wonderful house, -- that of those Plautiuses.
There are many people in it; but it is quiet there as in the groves of
Subiacum. For a number of days I did not know that a divinity
dwelt in the house. Once about daybreak I saw her bathing in the
garden fountain; and I swear to thee by that foam from which
Aphrodite rose, that the rays of the dawn passed right through her
body. I thought that when the sun rose she would vanish before me
in the light, as the twilight of morning does. Since then, I have
seen her twice; and since then, too, I know not what rest is, I know
not what other desires are, I have no wish to know what the city
can give me. I want neither women, nor gold, nor Corinthian
bronze, nor amber, nor pearls, nor wine, nor feasts; I want only
Lygia. I am yearning for her, in sincerity I tell thee, Petronius, as
that Dream who is imaged on the Mosaic of thy tepidarium
yearned for Paisythea, -- whole days and night do I yearn."
"If she is a slave, then purchase her."
"She is not a slave."
"What is she? A freed woman of Plautius?"
"Never having been a slave, she could not be a freed woman."
"Who is she?"
"I know not, -- a king's daughter, or something of that sort."
"Thou dost rouse my curiosity, Vinicius."
"But if thou wish to listen, I will satisfy thy curiosity straightway.
Her story is not a long one. Thou art acquainted, perhaps
personally, with Vannius, king of the Suevi, who, expelled from
his country, spent a long time here in Rome, and became even
famous for his skilful play with dice, and his good driving of
chariots. Drusus put him on the throne again. Vannius, who was
really a strong man, ruled well at first, and warred with success;
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Probably a spelling variation of "Ligeia", the remarkable female title character of an 1838 short story by Edgar Allan Poe.
Ligeia was a woman right up Nanaea's alley; maybe she'll be able to elaborate on the character and the origin of the name.
Ligeia was a woman right up Nanaea's alley; maybe she'll be able to elaborate on the character and the origin of the name.
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Not only is Poe's Ligeia up Nan's alley -- as out "legal alien in Kintuckie" so aptly noted -- but in addition Ligeia *may* share a common ethymological meaning with Nanaea/Nanaia :)
Ligeia is a rather rare classical Greek name, documented in "A
Lexicon of Greek Personal Names" (Volume II, Ed. by M. J. Osborne and S. B. Byrne, Oxford University Press,1994). The name is most probably related to "ligon" meaning "small, slight". Likewise Nanaia may *possibly* be related to the name Nana which is derived from "nano" (also meaning "small, slight, smurfy"). (Although Nanaia may well be derived from the Goddess Athena (Nanaia < Athenaia "of Athena" < Athena).
Ligeia is a rather rare classical Greek name, documented in "A
Lexicon of Greek Personal Names" (Volume II, Ed. by M. J. Osborne and S. B. Byrne, Oxford University Press,1994). The name is most probably related to "ligon" meaning "small, slight". Likewise Nanaia may *possibly* be related to the name Nana which is derived from "nano" (also meaning "small, slight, smurfy"). (Although Nanaia may well be derived from the Goddess Athena (Nanaia < Athenaia "of Athena" < Athena).
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Interesting, Priapos, to discover that the name "Ligeia" has been used as a Greek personal name. The Ligeia that I'm familiar with was (along with her sisters Parthenope and Leucosia) one of the Sirens, and her name supposedly meant "The shrill-sounding". Rather than expiring of any sad, consumptive illnesses, though, the Ligeia of classical legend would have been far more likely to lead Poe's narrator to his own death.
Of course, the Ligeia in the story did lead the narrator into madness. Thus prompting the eternal question about that short story of Poe's: Did Ligeia ever really exist? Or was she actually an opium-induced fantasy-woman of the narrator? And, when Rowena died, did Ligeia really "come back" into her body, or was the narrator just too far gone at this point to be able to distinguish between fantasy and reality?
And which is it that makes that short story of Poe's all the more horrific (and just plain, furkin' *weird*)? That it's merely a tale of the dead "coming back" -- or that it's a tale of an obsessive, grief-striken romantic who possibly winds up making love to the corpse of his dead wife in the mistaken belief that his non-existent fantasy woman has "possessed" her body?
-- Nanaea
Of course, the Ligeia in the story did lead the narrator into madness. Thus prompting the eternal question about that short story of Poe's: Did Ligeia ever really exist? Or was she actually an opium-induced fantasy-woman of the narrator? And, when Rowena died, did Ligeia really "come back" into her body, or was the narrator just too far gone at this point to be able to distinguish between fantasy and reality?
And which is it that makes that short story of Poe's all the more horrific (and just plain, furkin' *weird*)? That it's merely a tale of the dead "coming back" -- or that it's a tale of an obsessive, grief-striken romantic who possibly winds up making love to the corpse of his dead wife in the mistaken belief that his non-existent fantasy woman has "possessed" her body?
-- Nanaea
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I am currently searching in order to find out the real meaning of my name "Rowena", just for curiosity. Does any one have an idea?, i know it seems to come from the union between anglos and saxons in the island of England.., but know very little about its meaning!
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You are so right about Ligeia as a Siren! I jumped to my etymological speculations without doing my homework first :P
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No, you didn't "jump" to any etymological speculations -- you used psy-guy intuition and energy! I heartily approve of that! :)
When are we going to get the S - Z list of African-American names? I'm expecting a deluge of "Sha-", "Ta-" and "Wa-" prefixed names. :)
I'm now limiting the Master List to include only anagrams of names which are not too similar-sounding to each other, using Soundex as the authority for selecting those names.
The reason being that we can't realistically expect parents to name their twin boys: "Alexander" and "Alexandre", although I think "Parish" and "Saphir" make swell names. :)
-- Nanaea
When are we going to get the S - Z list of African-American names? I'm expecting a deluge of "Sha-", "Ta-" and "Wa-" prefixed names. :)
I'm now limiting the Master List to include only anagrams of names which are not too similar-sounding to each other, using Soundex as the authority for selecting those names.
The reason being that we can't realistically expect parents to name their twin boys: "Alexander" and "Alexandre", although I think "Parish" and "Saphir" make swell names. :)
-- Nanaea
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As you can imagine the S-Z part is abysmal! Expected date of completion: Wednesday. Arrrhg! Keep that Soundex device away from da 'hood!!!
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Editing dilemma
Da brotha's are gonna get you if you don't do that list by Wednesday. :)
I keep trying to think of ways to make the Master List more amenable, and Soundexing out all the similar-sounding names seemed like a plausible idea. (I've put back all the names consisting of 4 or fewer letters, BTW, coz I just couldn't bear to part names like with "Rose - Eros" and "Cher - Herc".)
But now I'm not so sure about the Soundexing idea. Because that automatically eliminates "Thanasi" (T520) from the "Shaitan" grouping, merely because there's already a "Tanisha" (T520) in there. And that also eliminates "Charis (C620) - Chrisa (C620)" and "Thais (T200) - Tisha (T200)". And I really *like* those entries.
I guess just eliminating all entries where the anagrammed names are basically just alternate spellings of each other makes the most sense.
I dunno. What do you suggest?
-- Nanaea
Da brotha's are gonna get you if you don't do that list by Wednesday. :)
I keep trying to think of ways to make the Master List more amenable, and Soundexing out all the similar-sounding names seemed like a plausible idea. (I've put back all the names consisting of 4 or fewer letters, BTW, coz I just couldn't bear to part names like with "Rose - Eros" and "Cher - Herc".)
But now I'm not so sure about the Soundexing idea. Because that automatically eliminates "Thanasi" (T520) from the "Shaitan" grouping, merely because there's already a "Tanisha" (T520) in there. And that also eliminates "Charis (C620) - Chrisa (C620)" and "Thais (T200) - Tisha (T200)". And I really *like* those entries.
I guess just eliminating all entries where the anagrammed names are basically just alternate spellings of each other makes the most sense.
I dunno. What do you suggest?
-- Nanaea
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Its rough to come up with an across-the-board iron-clad methodology. I think your qualitative ad hoc criteria, as an editor, should have the final word.
One suggestion would be to eliminate names which have just one inverted syllable (and do nor yield any other interesting anagrams).
For example, for : Taneisha - Tashiena – Taneshia - Taniesha, I would definitely eliminate Taniesha and possibly Taneshia but not Tashiena.
One suggestion would be to eliminate names which have just one inverted syllable (and do nor yield any other interesting anagrams).
For example, for : Taneisha - Tashiena – Taneshia - Taniesha, I would definitely eliminate Taniesha and possibly Taneshia but not Tashiena.
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Yep, I agree. And as for Taneisha (T520) - Tashiena (T250) - Taneshia (T520) - Taniesha (T520), as you can see, by the Soundex Method the only names which should rightfully remain are definitely Tashiena (T250) and Taneisha (T520), exactly as you suggested.
What I want, is to be able to provide a single, clear-cut explanation as to which names will be found in groupings on the Master List. If I use Soundex, then I have to use it for everything. Which means that "Carol (C640) - Coral (C640) - Carlo (C640)" would have to go.
So maybe Soundex isn't the answer, after all. And then, "Carol" and "Carlo" are basically the same name (in fem. and masc. versions), so perhaps they shouldn't be appearing in the same grouping with each other, anyway.
Aaargh! :)
-- Nanaea
What I want, is to be able to provide a single, clear-cut explanation as to which names will be found in groupings on the Master List. If I use Soundex, then I have to use it for everything. Which means that "Carol (C640) - Coral (C640) - Carlo (C640)" would have to go.
So maybe Soundex isn't the answer, after all. And then, "Carol" and "Carlo" are basically the same name (in fem. and masc. versions), so perhaps they shouldn't be appearing in the same grouping with each other, anyway.
Aaargh! :)
-- Nanaea
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Played around with the Soundex machine a bit. It leaves much to be desired for our porpoises. Carol and Carlo may be the same name, but Thanasi'n' Tanisha certainly aint. Dont worry too much about being consistent, use your psy-chick rasor instinctively.
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Okey-dokey. :) And, I like Carol - Carlo, too -- even if they are the same name, they're still opposite genders.
This will be The Rule, then: Any anagrammed names which are merely alternate spellings of each other, shall be eliminated.
I'm also thinking of putting a coding (in parentheses) after each name to indicate what its gender and origin is. I may tie this coding in somehow with the subject groupings from the Kabalarians website, as they now list over a half-million names. Plus, this way I can weed out any questionable entries from the Master List which may not exactly be names, like "Lardon" (which isn't found on the Kabalarians website.)
Of course, it would be a lot easier if I can simply send the Master List to the Kablarians, and let *them* add in all the codings, if they've got the time and patience for it. And, judging from the stuff they put up on that website of theirs, I figure they probably *do* have the time and patience for it. :)
Should I go for it, do ya think? It's too early to ring up Vancouver right now, so maybe I'll ring 'em up later today and make a nuisance of myself.
Heheh, the Kabalarians are Mike C.'s neighbors. :)
-- Nanaea
This will be The Rule, then: Any anagrammed names which are merely alternate spellings of each other, shall be eliminated.
I'm also thinking of putting a coding (in parentheses) after each name to indicate what its gender and origin is. I may tie this coding in somehow with the subject groupings from the Kabalarians website, as they now list over a half-million names. Plus, this way I can weed out any questionable entries from the Master List which may not exactly be names, like "Lardon" (which isn't found on the Kabalarians website.)
Of course, it would be a lot easier if I can simply send the Master List to the Kablarians, and let *them* add in all the codings, if they've got the time and patience for it. And, judging from the stuff they put up on that website of theirs, I figure they probably *do* have the time and patience for it. :)
Should I go for it, do ya think? It's too early to ring up Vancouver right now, so maybe I'll ring 'em up later today and make a nuisance of myself.
Heheh, the Kabalarians are Mike C.'s neighbors. :)
-- Nanaea
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Hehe if we can get them to do the dirty work, more power to them!!
And by the way, *CheBanana* is now an official, true, legit, bona fide name as per the Kabalarians! Thanks Nan :D
And by the way, *CheBanana* is now an official, true, legit, bona fide name as per the Kabalarians! Thanks Nan :D
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i still dont know what Ligia means.
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That's odd...
I see "CheBanana" on the Kabalarians' list, but when I click onto it I get the message that it "can't be found".
I also can't access it merely by typing in the name in the Search Box.
Whassup wid dat? :(
-- Nanaea
I see "CheBanana" on the Kabalarians' list, but when I click onto it I get the message that it "can't be found".
I also can't access it merely by typing in the name in the Search Box.
Whassup wid dat? :(
-- Nanaea
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Maybe the Kabalarians are having long brainstorming sessions to determine the etymology and hidden meanings of the name...NOT!
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what does this name mean?
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They must still be consulting their krystal kabala. When I ring them up later today on the phone, maybe I'll ask them about it. You know, I submitted "Satan-Herself" to them the same time I submitted "CheBanana", and "Satan-Herself" isn't even up on the list like "CheBanana" is. This is very disconcerting! :)
Nanaea
Nanaea
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Hey Nanaea
What do you have against the kabala? It's just another form of mysticism. (Sorry, kabalists, but that is my opinion.) You might find some of it interesting (depending on the translation). I'm studying it, and some stories associated with it, for my jewitch paper.
Now, krystal vacuum tube radio, perhaps.
Phyllis
What do you have against the kabala? It's just another form of mysticism. (Sorry, kabalists, but that is my opinion.) You might find some of it interesting (depending on the translation). I'm studying it, and some stories associated with it, for my jewitch paper.
Now, krystal vacuum tube radio, perhaps.
Phyllis
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Wow, college seems much more exciting nowadays!
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PriaposLovs
Sometimes it is, like the bromine spill in the chemestry building, the occasional visits from security, the cases of the triple professors, the wondering if you could still get into the neat class offered in forensic pathology (or was it forensic archeology?), the testing to see if you are qualified to take advanced underwater diving...
Phyllis
Sometimes it is, like the bromine spill in the chemestry building, the occasional visits from security, the cases of the triple professors, the wondering if you could still get into the neat class offered in forensic pathology (or was it forensic archeology?), the testing to see if you are qualified to take advanced underwater diving...
Phyllis
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Being a descendant of the tribe which invented the Kabala, I assure you Phyllis that I have nothing against it. :)
I was talking about the Kabalarian Society of Canada -- a whoooooole 'nuther animule. :)
-- Nanaea
I was talking about the Kabalarian Society of Canada -- a whoooooole 'nuther animule. :)
-- Nanaea
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Nanaea
I, too, am a descendant.
As I was saying, they're using their krystal vacuum tube radio. :P (Or is it krystal vacuum tube computer?) :D
Phyllis
I, too, am a descendant.
As I was saying, they're using their krystal vacuum tube radio. :P (Or is it krystal vacuum tube computer?) :D
Phyllis
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