How do I know if I name is Hebrew / French....
I often see people claiming Elizabeth is Hebrew, or Ciel is French. They are not, in fact. Let's see why.
- I think this little test is valid for any language though. -
Let's take the names: Elizabeth, Abraham, Jehiel, Avraham, Shiloh, Selah, Batya.
1) Does the name mean something in Hebrew?
Elizabeth, Abraham, Jehiel don't.
Avraham, Shiloh, Selah, Batya do.
2) If it does, is it a name, or a word, or a title....?
Avraham and Batya are names.
Shiloh is a title, Selah is a word.
-> Only Avraham and Batya are Hebrew names. The others are either Hebrew *words*, or *derived from Hebrew names*.
Ciel, for example, means something in French. But it is a word. So it would pass 1) but not 2).
You could also just ask yourself: Is or was this name used by Hebrew/French speaking people?
Also check:
Prononcing Hebrew names: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=178459&board=gen
Prononcing French names: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=199378&board=gen
~~ Claire ~~
- I think this little test is valid for any language though. -
Let's take the names: Elizabeth, Abraham, Jehiel, Avraham, Shiloh, Selah, Batya.
1) Does the name mean something in Hebrew?
Elizabeth, Abraham, Jehiel don't.
Avraham, Shiloh, Selah, Batya do.
2) If it does, is it a name, or a word, or a title....?
Avraham and Batya are names.
Shiloh is a title, Selah is a word.
-> Only Avraham and Batya are Hebrew names. The others are either Hebrew *words*, or *derived from Hebrew names*.
Ciel, for example, means something in French. But it is a word. So it would pass 1) but not 2).
You could also just ask yourself: Is or was this name used by Hebrew/French speaking people?
Also check:
Prononcing Hebrew names: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=178459&board=gen
Prononcing French names: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=199378&board=gen
~~ Claire ~~
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just a little message about ciel.I'm french and ciel means "sky"so it is a word.And i never heard about people named ciel in France.
Hi, Claire,
This is interesting, i had always following the accepted wisdom that the meaning of the name was "Oath to God" and that John the Bapists'mother was the most famous person to bare this name.
In Hebrew what was John's Mother then? and what is the meaning of her name?
A point i'm often confused on is, Hebrew/ Aramayic (spelling?). I understand that Jesus' language was Aramyic, so where does Hebrew fit in with language, did it exist side by side with it or was it later?
Right, having said - on a different subject, with you being French i was wondering if you might be able to throw any light on a few French names and there meanings, that i can seem to resolve, namely:- "Godet". "Magnol", "Gondree", "Benou" "Ran" Any help would be very much appreciated with regards "Bagpus"
This is interesting, i had always following the accepted wisdom that the meaning of the name was "Oath to God" and that John the Bapists'mother was the most famous person to bare this name.
In Hebrew what was John's Mother then? and what is the meaning of her name?
A point i'm often confused on is, Hebrew/ Aramayic (spelling?). I understand that Jesus' language was Aramyic, so where does Hebrew fit in with language, did it exist side by side with it or was it later?
Right, having said - on a different subject, with you being French i was wondering if you might be able to throw any light on a few French names and there meanings, that i can seem to resolve, namely:- "Godet". "Magnol", "Gondree", "Benou" "Ran" Any help would be very much appreciated with regards "Bagpus"
Elisheva means "G-d is an oath, a promise". For us Jews the most famous person was probably Elisheva the wife of Aharon, the daughter of Aminadav the prince of Judah.
Elizabeth wasn't the name of John's mother, it was Elisheva since she wasn't English but Hebrew. John wasn't John either of course, but Yochanan.
Hebrew is the holy/intellectual language, and Aramaic the every day/popular one. Most names are Hebrew. Jesus was Yeshua, Aramaic diminutive for the Hebrew name Yehoshua.
Surnames are more difficult, because many French surnames aren't from French origin.
Godet means "little glass".
Magnol could be a diminutive form of Magnus, or Magnolia.
Gondree could be of the same origin as Gontran, made of gund (war) & harlan (crow), but it's Frankish, not French, so I can't really help.
Benou could come from bien (good)?
I don't know about Ran.
This could interest you: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=155226&board=gen
~~ Claire ~~
Elizabeth wasn't the name of John's mother, it was Elisheva since she wasn't English but Hebrew. John wasn't John either of course, but Yochanan.
Hebrew is the holy/intellectual language, and Aramaic the every day/popular one. Most names are Hebrew. Jesus was Yeshua, Aramaic diminutive for the Hebrew name Yehoshua.
Surnames are more difficult, because many French surnames aren't from French origin.
Godet means "little glass".
Magnol could be a diminutive form of Magnus, or Magnolia.
Gondree could be of the same origin as Gontran, made of gund (war) & harlan (crow), but it's Frankish, not French, so I can't really help.
Benou could come from bien (good)?
I don't know about Ran.
This could interest you: http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=155226&board=gen
~~ Claire ~~
Attn - Miss Claire
Thank you for your help, interesting and i have learned something
Further for the French names.
Is there any site you know of containing information on Frankish names?
Thank you for your help, interesting and i have learned something
Further for the French names.
Is there any site you know of containing information on Frankish names?