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Valiant is an english word meaning bold and brave etc.
And I thought King Arthur was english? I've never read anything about him, I just thought he was.
And if so, I am very sure the Celts are only in whats now Scotland and Ireland.
~Silver
And I thought King Arthur was english? I've never read anything about him, I just thought he was.
And if so, I am very sure the Celts are only in whats now Scotland and Ireland.
~Silver
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"Valiant" is a fictional character in this beautifully-drawn cartoon series, and Silver's derivation of the meaning is correct.
King Arthur's actual existence as a historical personage is open to question, but he is most often considered to be a BRITISH leader who fought against the invading Angles and Saxons in the 500s.
By British I mean a Briton, a member of the pre-Germanic population who were Celtic in origin and eventually were forced back into what is now Wales, where their ethnic stock still predominates.
So Arthur would be British, not English, and Lu's assumption of his origin is correct. But Valiant is a made-up character with an English word for a name.
- Da.
King Arthur's actual existence as a historical personage is open to question, but he is most often considered to be a BRITISH leader who fought against the invading Angles and Saxons in the 500s.
By British I mean a Briton, a member of the pre-Germanic population who were Celtic in origin and eventually were forced back into what is now Wales, where their ethnic stock still predominates.
So Arthur would be British, not English, and Lu's assumption of his origin is correct. But Valiant is a made-up character with an English word for a name.
- Da.
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I'm sorry, but the fellow preferred froglegs to kidney pudding...
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English, from Old French vaillant, from Latin valns, valent-, present participle of valre, to be strong.
(The American Heritage® Dictionary)
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English, from Old French vaillant, from Latin valns, valent-, present participle of valre, to be strong.
(The American Heritage® Dictionary)
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Thanks for explaining. :)
I think King Arthur was Scottish or Welsh... but not English or Irish... :)
Lu
I think King Arthur was Scottish or Welsh... but not English or Irish... :)
Lu
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In legend, the guys we now call English were the ones he fought against, and lost. Which is why they now dominate most of the country except the extreme Northern, Western and South-Western bits - the Celtic fringe.
Historically, if he lived anywhere, it was probably North Wales and up the Scottish border country. But the English took him over, enthroned him at a fake Round Table in Winchester, and are still living happily ever after.
Historically, if he lived anywhere, it was probably North Wales and up the Scottish border country. But the English took him over, enthroned him at a fake Round Table in Winchester, and are still living happily ever after.
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