Re: question [m]
in reply to a message by Sabrina Fair
what if someone has no connection to Native Americans but has knowledge, or particular amount of respect for their culture to use a name from a certain tribe or a tribal name.
If that person has such a great connection to Native Americans in general, why would they use Dakota? Dakota's a name for the Santee Sioux. It's the name for a language. Do you realize that most people who identify as a part of the group known as the Dakota wouldn't actually refer to themselves as Dakota?
I have a hard time believing someone has such a deep and significant bond to Native peoples and would choose a generic, tryndee designation rather than a Native name with meaning, heritage, and history of use. "I use Dakota because I'm so into Native American heritage!" strikes me as a lame way of saying "I like a tryndee name but need an excuse to make myself feel better."
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If that person has such a great connection to Native Americans in general, why would they use Dakota? Dakota's a name for the Santee Sioux. It's the name for a language. Do you realize that most people who identify as a part of the group known as the Dakota wouldn't actually refer to themselves as Dakota?
I have a hard time believing someone has such a deep and significant bond to Native peoples and would choose a generic, tryndee designation rather than a Native name with meaning, heritage, and history of use. "I use Dakota because I'm so into Native American heritage!" strikes me as a lame way of saying "I like a tryndee name but need an excuse to make myself feel better."
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...So, uh. What's your point?
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ETA: A better explanation of my reaction to your response:
This threadlet of sorts is a discussion on the use of Dakota as a name and whether it's disrespectful and ignorant or not. It is not a discussion of what Sabrina Fair thinks of the name Dakota, or whether Sabrina Fair would use it. Quite frankly, I don't care. Do you have any relevant arguments left?
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ETA: A better explanation of my reaction to your response:
This threadlet of sorts is a discussion on the use of Dakota as a name and whether it's disrespectful and ignorant or not. It is not a discussion of what Sabrina Fair thinks of the name Dakota, or whether Sabrina Fair would use it. Quite frankly, I don't care. Do you have any relevant arguments left?
This message was edited 1/20/2007, 8:37 PM
it answers your question in this post
my point is, as long as someone has respect for the people, and culture (regardless of what culture it is) then it's fine to use it.
ETA: I don't care that you don't care what I think, however why should people care what other people name their kids, it's their children not anyone elses. Even if it's considered 'ignorant, and rude' to someone or a Native American, it doesn't mean it's offensive to all Native Americans, or even other people. That's just my opinion though. If people dislike Dakota, that's their opinion everyone had dislikes, and likes or is offended by certain names, and some others are fine.
my point is, as long as someone has respect for the people, and culture (regardless of what culture it is) then it's fine to use it.
ETA: I don't care that you don't care what I think, however why should people care what other people name their kids, it's their children not anyone elses. Even if it's considered 'ignorant, and rude' to someone or a Native American, it doesn't mean it's offensive to all Native Americans, or even other people. That's just my opinion though. If people dislike Dakota, that's their opinion everyone had dislikes, and likes or is offended by certain names, and some others are fine.
This message was edited 1/20/2007, 11:00 PM