Patrice
Since we just had a post about the very slim unisex possibilities of Patrick, I was wondering what people thought about Patrice. Is there a sex that you automatically assume (or just knew) that it "belongs" to? What do you think of it?
I was kind of surprised to see that it was masculine, since I've heard it before a few times and always on women.
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I was kind of surprised to see that it was masculine, since I've heard it before a few times and always on women.
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This message was edited 10/11/2006, 7:43 AM
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In French-speaking cultures (including Quebec), Patrice is a male name, the original French form of Patrick. (Patrick itself has been more common in France, recently, however.) But in the USA, Patrice is considered a feminine form, and that isn't a recent phenomenon. Between 1945 and 1995, Patrice was among the top 1000 names given girls born in the USA, according to the SSA list. It has never been among the top 1000 names for boys in the USA.
I was surprised to see it listed as only masculine. I've known a couple women named Patrice but have only known of men named it.
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I've only ever heard of Patrice as feminine.
Masculine in French
but unisex in USA. I've got a feeling that all uncommon names are considered feminine in USA. I guess people would think that since Clarice and Therese are feminine, Patrice must be too.
I certainly think Patrice would be much better for a girl than Patrick, though I like Patricia best.
- She said he made a racial slur!
- Racial? She is Swedish!
- Maybe he called her Meatball.
"I’ve given it a lot of thought, and I’ve decided to be spontaneous."
but unisex in USA. I've got a feeling that all uncommon names are considered feminine in USA. I guess people would think that since Clarice and Therese are feminine, Patrice must be too.
I certainly think Patrice would be much better for a girl than Patrick, though I like Patricia best.
- She said he made a racial slur!
- Racial? She is Swedish!
- Maybe he called her Meatball.
"I’ve given it a lot of thought, and I’ve decided to be spontaneous."
That would stand to reason if it is a French masculine name. However if you look at NameVoyager (which I believe tracks names in the US only based on social security records back about 100 years), Patrice never appears as a masculine name.
It has unisex usage in France
apparently, if these charts are correct and I'm interpreting them accurately. I don't know French, but they seem fairly straightforward.
For girls---Remarque : PATRICE est un prénom mixte. Les statistiques ci-dessus correspondent au genre féminin.
http://meilleursprenoms.com/stats/histogram.php3?recherche=patrice&sexe=F
For boys--Remarque : PATRICE est un prénom mixte. Les statistiques ci-dessus correspondent au genre masculin.
http://meilleursprenoms.com/stats/histogram.php3?recherche=patrice&partner=Recherchez
**Edited to add that I stand corrected if I'm reading them wrong or if the source is unreliable.
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apparently, if these charts are correct and I'm interpreting them accurately. I don't know French, but they seem fairly straightforward.
For girls---Remarque : PATRICE est un prénom mixte. Les statistiques ci-dessus correspondent au genre féminin.
http://meilleursprenoms.com/stats/histogram.php3?recherche=patrice&sexe=F
For boys--Remarque : PATRICE est un prénom mixte. Les statistiques ci-dessus correspondent au genre masculin.
http://meilleursprenoms.com/stats/histogram.php3?recherche=patrice&partner=Recherchez
**Edited to add that I stand corrected if I'm reading them wrong or if the source is unreliable.
www.qwantz.com
This message was edited 10/11/2006, 8:53 PM
I thought of it as feminine aswell, but after looking at it I think I know what I got it confused with. Isn't pat-REES on a female spelled Patriece? Or maybe I just assumed wrong and had Patricia in the back of my mind, :-)
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This message was edited 10/12/2006, 1:19 PM
I think its more feminine...(m)
I've only ever known one woman named Patrice (one of my teachers at primary school) and I didn't even know it was masculine too. I automatically think its more feminine as it has the "ice" at the end which doesn't seem very masculine and makes me think of eg. Clarice. Patrick is more suitable for a boy imo.
I think Patrice is a nice name, its a little more interesting than Patrick/Patricia but its just not a name I'd choose to use for future children.
I've only ever known one woman named Patrice (one of my teachers at primary school) and I didn't even know it was masculine too. I automatically think its more feminine as it has the "ice" at the end which doesn't seem very masculine and makes me think of eg. Clarice. Patrick is more suitable for a boy imo.
I think Patrice is a nice name, its a little more interesting than Patrick/Patricia but its just not a name I'd choose to use for future children.
It's masculine to me, it makes me think of a Canadian ice dancer (a guy) =P ... but it's one of those boy names that I don't think many American guys would name their son. Like Paris. I guess I must've heard of it on women somewhere? I can't remember ever seeing a female Patrice. But I think it's just the -eess sound of the ending that sounds femme to people who haven't met male bearers, as in Shanice, Clarice, Therese. So where I'm from, a lot of people would expect it to be female.
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