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from the Web: "Names that scream you are a trashy parent" Do you agree?
This was recommended to me in my feed while doing research for an essay, and this felt like a fun distraction to procrastinate a biiiit longer. The wording was so harsh an assessment I felt a bit defensive without even opening the list up. Yes, I am aware it's click-bait and I fell for it. But still... Let's explore these points in the article one-by-one. 1.) "Any Baby Name as Alcohol. Naming your child after an alcoholic beverage has become a bit of a trend lately. Some parents think it’s cool or unique, but let’s be honest, it’s a choice that raises a lot of eyebrows and invites criticism. I mean, seriously, who names their kid Brandy or Whiskey? It’s seen as inappropriate or even irresponsible." Brandy has been a long-standing choice in my region for a while now. I don't even think of it as an alcohol name anymore. I'm a bit partial to it actually. As many of you, know my grandmother and her sisters were all given alcohol names as well (for the most part, unless there was an alcoholic beverage named Donna in the 1930's that I am unaware of). Tequilla and Margarita definitely rub me the wrong way, Chardonnay feels so artificially fancy... but I do think results may vary for this one. Depends on the name and context imo. 2.) "Mike but Short for Micycle. So, here’s the thing: you know the name Mike, right? It’s a pretty common and straightforward name. But have you ever heard of someone using Mike as a nickname for Micycle? Yeah, I know, it sounds a bit strange. It’s like taking a simple name and giving it a quirky twist. While some may find it creative or playful, others might see it as unnecessary or even a bit silly. It’s not a common practice, so people might not immediately understand or appreciate the connection between Mike and Micycle. Ultimately, it’s up to personal preference, but be prepared for some puzzled looks and questions if you decide to go with this unique nickname." I've literally never heard of the name Micycle being used in my life. Have you?? Too lazy to check. Feels like the Author's stretchin' so far their reaching for Pluto. If I didn't know any better I would say they were completely making this up just for the article. 3.) "Any of Nick Cannon's Kids' Names. Let’s talk about Nick Cannon’s kids’ names. Seriously, they’re something else. I mean, we’ve got Moroccan and Monroe, Golden and Powerful Queen. These sound like names a child would give a pet horse. The man knows how to pick names that grab your attention. Some might think they’re cool and unique, while others might think they’re a little too out there, you know? Nick Cannon definitely isn’t afraid to think outside the box when it comes to naming. They’re not your typical run-of-the-mill names, that’s for sure. Whether you love ’em or find ’em a bit unconventional, you can’t deny that Nick Cannon’s kids’ names make a statement. What statement that is, it’s up to you!"I could theoretically be on board with a few of his children's names. Zen is a nice concept in theory, and I can be open to word names. (Rest in Peace) Zillion I could be open to if it was paired with something else besides Heir. Onyx I like if, again, paired with something else. The rest... eh.. Legendary Love Cannon for one still cracks me up every time lol!! Poor kid. 4.) "All the Names With X Thrown in the Middle or Even Two. Let’s talk about names with an X thrown right in the middle, and hey, sometimes even two X’s! It’s become quite the trend these days, you know? People are getting all creative and funky with it. We’ve got names like Maxine, Alex, Jaxon, Felix, and the list goes on. The X gives these names a real edgy and modern vibe. Some folks love it, thinking it’s cool and unique. But there are others who think it’s a bit over the top, like, do we really need that extra X? It definitely makes a name stand out, no doubt about that. But we also gotta think about how it flows and sounds. Sometimes, all those X’s can make a name a bit tricky to say or spell. So, while it’s a fun trend to explore, we should also consider finding that sweet spot where the name looks cool but is still practical and easy to live with." .... Felix and Alex have definitely been long-standing names long before this trend, what?? Though I agree Jaxon is an eyesore, and a few others that have an extra x tossed on for the heck of it are not pretty imo. 5.) Horribly Misspelled To Seem Different. Let’s delve into the world of names that have been horribly misspelled in an attempt to appear different. You know what I’m talking about – those names where the spelling is completely twisted with random and excessive letters, all in the name of being unique. It’s a trend that’s gained some attention, but it’s not without controversy. Some people might find these misspelled names to be creative or distinct, while others see them as perplexing and unnecessary. But let’s face it, when you encounter a name like “Jaxon” instead of “Jackson” or “Aydynn” instead of “Aiden,” it’s bound to make you pause. It’s like a deliberate effort to deviate from the norm. While it’s perfectly fine to desire a one-of-a-kind name, purposefully misspelling it can lead to challenges like mispronunciations, misspellings, and a lifetime of clarifications. Therefore, it’s worth considering striking a balance between standing out and avoiding unnecessary complexities for your child." hmmm.... I think so long as the variant has a smidgen of history, it should theoretically get a pass. My favorite spelling of Elizabeth is Elisabeth. I also like Alyce and Veronika.. though all three have some history. But I do agree, just randomly made-up spellings aren't very attractive. Aydynn when I read it in the article took a little chip of my soul and scurried off into the abyss. 6.) "Nevaeh. Let’s talk about Nevaeh, that name spelled backward to be “heaven.” Honestly, it’s the one that really gets on my nerves. I find it so obnoxious. I mean, seriously, why take a beautiful word like “heaven” and twist it around just to make a name? It feels like people are trying way too hard to be unique or cool. Some might think it’s clever or interesting, but to me, it just seems forced and fake. And the fact that Nevaeh has become so popular in recent years makes it even more irritating. It’s like everyone suddenly thought it was the most brilliant idea ever. But hey, that’s just how I feel about it. Naming is a personal thing, and what may bug me might be someone else’s favorite." It's better than naming your child Hell I suppose. I don't love it by a long stretch, but I do know many more offensive choices than Neveah and I know you do too. 7.) "Joaux (Joe) Is a Personal Favorite. Let’s dive into the name Joaux, where we encounter a deliberate misspelling in an effort to exude a cool vibe. It falls under the category of intentionally altering traditional spellings to create a distinct and eye-catching effect. By replacing the standard “e” with an unconventional “x,” it aims to infuse the name with a contemporary and edgy flair. However, opinions on this kind of misspelling can vary widely. While some may find it innovative and appealing, others might perceive it as unnecessary or even contrived. It’s crucial to consider the practicality and ease of pronunciation that come along with these unique spellings. In the case of Joaux, while the intention may be to convey a sense of coolness, it could also result in confusion or mispronunciation. Ultimately, striking a balance between individuality and maintaining clarity in communication is key when exploring these unconventional spellings."
.... No comment ._. 8.) "Parents that name their kids Princess, Queen, or king. Seriously, it can cause some serious issues. First of all, it puts crazy expectations on the poor kid. I mean, imagine trying to live up to the grandeur and importance associated with those titles. It’s a lot of pressure, and it can mess with their self-esteem big time. Plus, let’s not forget about the teasing and bullying they might face from other kids. You know how kids can be, always looking for something to make fun of. And let’s be real, these names can make the child’s identity kinda get lost in the shuffle. They’re constantly seen as just a royal title instead of their own unique person. It also reinforces this idea of superiority and entitlement, which is not cool at all. So, while it might seem cool or fancy to name your kid Princess, Queen, or King, it’s really not the best move for their well-being and overall happiness." Title names always feel a bit falsely pretentious to me, or just too pet-like. I grew up in the countryside and I couldn't tell you how many horses and ponies I've known named Princess, Prince, Kingly, Duke, Duchess etc. Very equine. Princess does particularly rub me the wrong way. There is a middleschool aged girl named this in my community, and I do feel bad for her. Can you imagine being named Princess at 14? oof. Being 14 is hard enough, thank you. 9.) "Named After a Brand Name Like Cars or Clothing. Seriously, it’s a questionable choice with some serious downsides. First off, it’s like turning your child into a walking advertisement. Naming them after a brand implies that their identity is all about consumerism rather than their own individuality. It’s like saying, “Hey, look, my kid is a walking billboard!” Not exactly the best message to send. Plus, let’s be real, brand names can easily go out of style or lose their popularity. So, what happens when that trendy car or clothing brand becomes so yesterday. Your kid might end up with a name that feels completely irrelevant or, worse, like they’re stuck in a time capsule. And let’s not forget about the teasing and mockery they might face from their peers. Kids can be brutal, and having a brand name as a moniker might make them an easy target for jokes or judgment. On top of that, it puts unnecessary pressure on the child to live up to the image or reputation associated with the brand. They might feel like they have to fit a certain mold or meet certain expectations just because of their name." I'll give a few car names a pass for this one, depending on the situation. I think there is also some wiggle room if it is a car brand that isn't used in your country, etc. I do unironically like Avalon and would probably still consider it outside of the car connection. 11.) "Witnessed a Woman Yelling at Her Daughter in the Grocery Store: "Starlet". So, I was at the grocery store, minding my own business, when I witnessed this intense scene between a mother and her daughter. The mom was yelling at her, and it definitely caught my attention. But what really struck me was when she called her daughter “Starlet.” Like, seriously? In the middle of a grocery store meltdown? It just seemed like such an odd choice of name given the situation. I mean, “Starlet” implies this whole glamorous and attention-seeking persona, and here she was, getting yelled at in the middle of the cereal aisle. It made me wonder about the parent’s motivations and expectations. Naming your child is a big deal, and it should be about empowering them and nurturing their individuality. This whole incident just reminded me of the importance of choosing names that set our kids up for success and create a loving environment." Meh... Starlet is fine to me. It's not my style but I do think it's "mostly" harmless. The connection to wanted fame can't be ignored, but it also has a kind of sweet energy to it. Making me think more of "starlight" than movie star. I could possibly toss it a pass as a nature name on a theoretical level. That's all Folks!Please rate my "Names I would Use" list & "Backup Favorites" list. Feel free to rate some of my other lists too if you have the time.
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1. I actually really like the name Brandy. Calling your child after alcohol is not as rare as you think, see Estrella/any other variant. I do agree that it would be a litte weird to call your kid "Beer" or "Wine" but that's why people don't.2. I have never heard of the name "Micycle" in my entire life. I swear their making this up.3. Monroe has been a name used for a long time...but some of these names are kinda stupid.4. I understand Jaxon (ew), but haven't Maxine, Alex and Felix all been name's used since along time ago. Also Alex is a nickname for Alexander) Are you scared that if you use Alexander that it will it will de-prove your point?5. Some names a can understand (Harleigh, Jaxxon, Aydynn), but names which have been used for a long time (Like the ones you showed) are pretty nice.6. I dont like Nevaeh, but it could be worst...7. Didnt you say that you hated names with unnecessary X's?8. I dont really like of those sorta "title" names, especially Princess.9. Well, brand names sometimes come from names...like Porsha, Mercedes or Chanelle.10. [DATA NOT FOUND]11. I actually like Staret as a character name, and its not the worst name I've ever seen.

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This feels like clickbait from fifteen years ago.I'm not going to do a point-by-point breakdown but I can't judge parents based on names anymore. I've taught high school in three extremely different teaching environments, and what I've learned is that names are a matter of personal style and choice, and supportive and loving parents come from all backgrounds and situations. I've had families with names I've viewed as patently absurd and realized that that was a harsh and unfair judgment. I also have deal with abusive families who named their kids Richard and Elizabeth - perhaps as bland and theoretically "respectable" as names get.That's kind of not the point here, I get. The Nevaeh comment feels so dated (I've literally never met one?). The commentary on Nick Cannon and his names is a point one can take, but I'm more concerned about his whole attitude toward procreation than what he names his kids. (Same to Elon Musk - and frankly I'd judge Musk's name choices more.)There are perhaps some exceptions to this: alcohol/drug-related names might be something to consider, but there's also a huge difference between naming a child Brandy and naming a child Methamphetamine. But in an instance like that, the bigger issue would probably be the parents' headspace versus the name itself.The older I get, the more set in my ways I am with my personal taste in names - but the more open and accommodating I am toward names that don't fit my preferred style.
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well said
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1. Kinda cringey to obviously name a baby after alcohol, but not 'trashy'. I went to school with a Brandy. 2. Pretty sure they didn't literally mean 'Micycle', they meant reverse-engineering a weird name from a common nickname. Like, idk, Jon for Jonatello or Sam for Samminetta (I'm not doing a good job of coming up with realistic examples, but anyway. I think this is fine as long as the name you come up with sounds good. It doesn't have to be a real name with history behind it, but it at least has to look and sound decent so people think "huh, cool" or "oh, clever" instead of "...what, why?") Samwise and Samwell fit into this category for me; these are mainly associated with book characters but to me they would be 'good' examples of unusual full names for Sam, while Samminetta, Sampton, Samonella, or whatever would be bad examples. 3. I don't know who that is but those sound like celebrity baby names that are more of a stunt and they probably don't go by them. The closest I can think of that I've encountered in real life was when my sister had a classmate called Jazzofmine. Looks ridiculous because it's "jazz of mine' but they pronounced it Jazz-e-mine without the "f" so it sounded more like a name than a sentence. 4. X is fine. Yes, names that normally have an x like Alex and Felix will get more popular when x is trendy, but that doesn't mean they're on the same level as Maxon or Jaxson. And even those names aren't trashy, they're just trendy. They're associated with white middle class mommy-blogger types, which is not a good association but also not what I assume the article means by "trashy". I'd maybe call it "tacky" rather than "trashy"? or just plain old "trendy" which doesn't imply so much judgment.5. Let's ne real, nobody gives their actual child a certain name just "to seem different". It might look that way to YOU if you don't like the name, but if someone used it, they genuinely liked it. This sounds like when people accuse others of getting tattoos, dying their hair, or dressing alternatively "just to look different", as if they can't fathom someone having different tastes than themselves so they assume those people must have an ulterior motive of 'wanting to look different' rather than just liking things.

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"10. there is no 10 on this list apparently"Lol, my bad
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10. Don't name your baby after the number "Ten"

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A couple of these (I'm looking at you, Joaux) seem to have been invented by the listmaker to fill out the list. I'm jus tnot buying that those names have really gotten any kind of use.
Are we over Nevaeh yet? Because all the fake-feeling outrage feels like twenty-five years ago. Soon enough it will either be considered totally unremarkable, or as dated as Brandy and Sherry are now. (And Margarita is a totally legitimate name; the Spanish for Margaret came way before the drink.)You can't use Nick Cannon as any kind of barometer. He's a total celebrity whose one job is staying a celebrity. His kids are named accordingly. But I agree that Legendary Love Cannon is extremely bad, and it would not surprise me at all if it turned out to be Nick's and that particular baby-mama's tribute to Nick's private parts.
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Right, that and Micycle I think are totally fictitious of the author.
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A lot of these listical-makers have a pretty fast-and-loose idea of what "trendy" means. they'll see one example of a strange name, like Joaux, and decide it's some new trend.
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1. Overall I think alcohol names are probably a bad idea but with exceptions. I also don't even think of Brandy as an alcohol name. I'm sure I heard it as a name first. I personally wouldn't use Margarita but seeing it on a Spanish speaking person would make sense to me. 2. No, no I have not ever heard of someone using Mike as a nickname for Micycle because that's not a name. I agree with the author stretching here.3. Yes, Nick Cannon's kid's names are generally ridiculous but who else are using these names. Most of them are the most ridiculous when said all together as the full name. Some would be fine without the combo.4. I agree with you. The only one they listed that was trendy and maybe seen as trashy is Jaxon because the x is replacing other letters that are traditionally there. All the other examples they gave are supposed to be spelled with an x. 5. I do hate deliberate misspellings to be different but those with history or are legitimate spellings from other cultures are fine. Also when everyone is thinking this the supposed to stand-out version becomes the more popular version. I know more children named Alivia than Olivia.6. There are definitely worse. I don't love Nevaeh but it seems pretty normal by now. I like the sound but not the idea or spelling.7. Who has ever heard of this?8. I do think these are bad.9. This definitely depends on the name and the brand. Also where you live, the popularity of the brand, what the product is. This one just has so many variables. 10. It's not great but not horrible. I think this author takes the meaning of word names too literally and is overly obsessed with the idea of kids growing up entitled based solely on their name which is just ridiculous. I could see some possibility of that because of parents choosing those names may treat the child in a way to make them entitled but it's not a given.
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Good points. Interestingly, the oldest Alivia I know is in her 30s. She comes from a large farming family (the eldest of 12 kids!) and they all have variant spellings. Though the only sibling that I remember at the top of my head is Saige as opposed to Sage.
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QuoteZen is a nice concept in theory, and I can be open to word names. (Rest in Peace) Zillion...
Wait, did one of Nick Cannon's kids die?Also, this article can just walk over there, away from me, for hating on Maxine. :-PI remember reading that royal / noble titles as names is unfortunately rooted in racism, particularly among the Black community. This is because Black people were historically often addressed informally no matter what their station, or by whom. Not "Mr." or "Mrs." or "Miss," but rather their first name or "Boy" / "Girl." So, titles started to be used as personal names. The idea was, "Okay, are you going to call me 'Mr. _____' like a civilized person, or are you going to call me King?"
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Yes, one of his little boys passed away from brain cancer. He was only 5 months old at the time. Very tragic :( That is very fascinating actually! I am glad I learned that! Thank you for sharing with me. Yes, I do think I have known a few different African Americans named titles now that you mention that. Good for them, damn, fight the power.
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Saying trashy is classist. 🤯
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Yes, I agree with that. People will say anything for headlines these days even when it's offensive.
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Yeah it’s very uncomfortable to see. Nothing is trashy.
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Except for the bin 🚮 lol
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Lol! 😂
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Parnassus or Barbie.
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