Elisabeth on a boy
Robert Elisabeth Stolz (1880-1975) was an Austrian composer. Apparently, Elisabeth is sometimes used as a masculine middle name in some countries, like Maria is. Thoughts?
ETA how did I not notice this said Australian composer?? I'll see myself out.
masculine list: https://www.behindthename.com/pnl/191050/124079
feminine list: https://www.behindthename.com/pnl/191050/124080
ETA how did I not notice this said Australian composer?? I'll see myself out.
masculine list: https://www.behindthename.com/pnl/191050/124079
feminine list: https://www.behindthename.com/pnl/191050/124080
This message was edited 11/22/2021, 5:28 AM
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It reminds me very much of The Producers. Adolf Elizabeth Hitler, Roger Elizabeth De Bris.
I've gotten used to Maria as a middle name for guys. It took years of studying people's names, and now I really like it!
Elizabeth, like Maria, has no feminine sound to it at all. But if paired with the right name, it can sound better. I don't like Robert Elizabeth, but if Jose Maria works, why not Jose Elizabeth? I just wouldn't use them as first names for boys, especially not in my country. They do have a place somewhere, though, and that ought to be respected. Why do girls get to be called Carter, Parker and James, but not boys be called Elizabeth and Maria? The double standard is painfully obvious.
(I'm not arguing with any particular person on this thread, by the way. That is just my response to the general population. There are not many people who are willing to put girl names on guys, but doing it the other way around is a trend right now.)
Elizabeth, like Maria, has no feminine sound to it at all. But if paired with the right name, it can sound better. I don't like Robert Elizabeth, but if Jose Maria works, why not Jose Elizabeth? I just wouldn't use them as first names for boys, especially not in my country. They do have a place somewhere, though, and that ought to be respected. Why do girls get to be called Carter, Parker and James, but not boys be called Elizabeth and Maria? The double standard is painfully obvious.
(I'm not arguing with any particular person on this thread, by the way. That is just my response to the general population. There are not many people who are willing to put girl names on guys, but doing it the other way around is a trend right now.)
Agreed.
I was pretty much going to say the same thing. Elisabeth on a boy? Why the hell not at this point. There’s not a feminine sound in it but if we name our daughters James, Michael, Beau, Benjamin, and all of that stuff and these names are historically masculine why not name a son Elizabeth, Anna, or Rachel? If we really want to promote gender equality and all of that good stuff, why not let it be a two way street? At least the parents had the decency to use it as a middle name.
I was pretty much going to say the same thing. Elisabeth on a boy? Why the hell not at this point. There’s not a feminine sound in it but if we name our daughters James, Michael, Beau, Benjamin, and all of that stuff and these names are historically masculine why not name a son Elizabeth, Anna, or Rachel? If we really want to promote gender equality and all of that good stuff, why not let it be a two way street? At least the parents had the decency to use it as a middle name.
Glad to see that someone agrees. I always feel like the minority around here. And these comment section quadruplets/duplicates are no joke. I don't know why this keeps happening to me. XD
I dislike it both ways equally tbh
I've gotten used to Maria as a middle name for guys. It took years of studying people's names, and now I really like it!
Elizabeth, like Maria, has no feminine sound to it at all. But if paired with the right name, it can sound better. I don't like Robert Elizabeth, but if Jose Maria works, why not Jose Elizabeth? I just wouldn't use them as first names for boys, especially not in my country. They do have a place somewhere, though, and that ought to be respected. Why do girls get to be called Carter, Parker and James, but not boys be called Elizabeth and Maria? The double standard is painfully obvious.
(I'm not arguing with any particular person on this thread, by the way. That is just my response to the general population. There are not many people who are willing to put girl names on guys, but doing it the other way around is a trend right now.)
Elizabeth, like Maria, has no feminine sound to it at all. But if paired with the right name, it can sound better. I don't like Robert Elizabeth, but if Jose Maria works, why not Jose Elizabeth? I just wouldn't use them as first names for boys, especially not in my country. They do have a place somewhere, though, and that ought to be respected. Why do girls get to be called Carter, Parker and James, but not boys be called Elizabeth and Maria? The double standard is painfully obvious.
(I'm not arguing with any particular person on this thread, by the way. That is just my response to the general population. There are not many people who are willing to put girl names on guys, but doing it the other way around is a trend right now.)
That’s a no from me. If it’s common in one’s country then fine. But it is a firmly feminine name in my country and would be cause for ridicule for a boy to have it.
Terrible
I don't think there are many male Australians named Elizabeth, or Elisabeth. But if he had a particularly distinguished female ancestor, then perhaps using her name might make sense. In the time of Queen Anne, she was godmother to a boy baby, son of a member of the nobility, and he became Lord Anne Somebody, so it can happen. Or it could. Middle names can be kept confidential more easily than first names; but someone will always find out. I was at school with, as we all thought, an Alison Margaret. But I got to carry piles of lists for a teacher one day, and it turned out that she had a second mn: Honeybun. I didn't tell anyone else - I liked her, we were friends - but I did mention it to her!
Love it! Wouldn’t Maria be used though after the Virgin Mary?
Awful. Just as awful as naming your daughter William.
Elizabeth is a not a good name for a boy. Even worse than naming a girl James.