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HelpGeorge, James, and Wyatt. (F)
I’ve been reading comments and a lot of people say the names James and Wyatt are actually unisex. Also that George is okay on a girl. What do you think of these names on a girl?
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What I want to know is....
Why James and Wyatt, of all male names? I don't understand why those two in particular are making the shift. I *sort* of understand James, via Jamie, but Wyatt confuses me. What is it that parents are trying to capture when they use Wyatt on a girl? Is it because the "-att" is like an evolution of "-ette"? Is it a cowboy-cool thing? Wyatt seems so....unlikely. It makes about as much sense to me as making Dwight or Elmer into a fresh new girl's name.
I love George and Georgie on girls, but as pet names for Georgia, Georgina, etc. Just-George seems a bit, hmm, clumsy.
Why James and Wyatt, of all male names? I don't understand why those two in particular are making the shift. I *sort* of understand James, via Jamie, but Wyatt confuses me. What is it that parents are trying to capture when they use Wyatt on a girl? Is it because the "-att" is like an evolution of "-ette"? Is it a cowboy-cool thing? Wyatt seems so....unlikely. It makes about as much sense to me as making Dwight or Elmer into a fresh new girl's name.
I love George and Georgie on girls, but as pet names for Georgia, Georgina, etc. Just-George seems a bit, hmm, clumsy.
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I think James started being used on baby girls for the nickname Jamie, but after a while people started naming their daughters Jamie instead to make the legal name less ambiguous. It's not as... well, offensive as some other choices, but I still wouldn't name my daughter James.
In the case of the 1980s revival of Nancy Drew mysteries, I think "George" Fayne's real name was Georgia, and George was a nickname. I already dislike George on a boy (I really just dislike the "George" sound in general), so that's not a choice I'd make for a daughter, either.
Wyatt is... wholly masculine. Like, synonymous with Wyatt Earp type of masculine. I haven't seen / heard anyone suggest that Wyatt is a suitable feminine name, but if they're doing so I have to STRONGLY disagree. Then again, there are people who've named their daughters Tyler, so...
In the case of the 1980s revival of Nancy Drew mysteries, I think "George" Fayne's real name was Georgia, and George was a nickname. I already dislike George on a boy (I really just dislike the "George" sound in general), so that's not a choice I'd make for a daughter, either.
Wyatt is... wholly masculine. Like, synonymous with Wyatt Earp type of masculine. I haven't seen / heard anyone suggest that Wyatt is a suitable feminine name, but if they're doing so I have to STRONGLY disagree. Then again, there are people who've named their daughters Tyler, so...
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They seem pretty bad to me.
I hate James on a guy, and it seems a little less bad on a girl, actually - but that doesn't make it good. Also I would hate to be a girl/woman named James. Not only is it the wrong gender, but it's just so blah and plain and smarmy-sounding. At least she could go by Jamie which is nice imo.
I think of the first-name usage of Wyatt as inspired by Wyatt Earp, so it's strongly attached to a masculine image for me. I can understand its appeal as a guyname, but not as a galname. Wyett could seem feminine enough, almost the same prn, and I could get used to it. But I wouldn't like it.
George would only seem OK on a girl/woman if it were a nickname for a Georg-name. It's so frumpy and doughy by itself, as a full fn for a girl it would seem almost pathetic to me. But as a nick for some people, I could picture it working.
Most all common traditional guynames on gals, come across as weak to me. It's as if the positive associations I have with them as guynames, get almost inverted.
I hate James on a guy, and it seems a little less bad on a girl, actually - but that doesn't make it good. Also I would hate to be a girl/woman named James. Not only is it the wrong gender, but it's just so blah and plain and smarmy-sounding. At least she could go by Jamie which is nice imo.
I think of the first-name usage of Wyatt as inspired by Wyatt Earp, so it's strongly attached to a masculine image for me. I can understand its appeal as a guyname, but not as a galname. Wyett could seem feminine enough, almost the same prn, and I could get used to it. But I wouldn't like it.
George would only seem OK on a girl/woman if it were a nickname for a Georg-name. It's so frumpy and doughy by itself, as a full fn for a girl it would seem almost pathetic to me. But as a nick for some people, I could picture it working.
Most all common traditional guynames on gals, come across as weak to me. It's as if the positive associations I have with them as guynames, get almost inverted.
This message was edited 4/24/2021, 5:08 PM
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I don't like any of these for a girl
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No, no and no! All male names to me.
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None of these are remotely feminine. I don't think that taking a boys name and using it on a girl makes something unisex, it makes it a boys name on a girl.
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I wouldn't name a daughter any of those, but they are surnames, and all surnames seem reasonably unisex as first names to me.
Stylewise, I think of them as like a woman wearing a signet ring...not my thing but whatever.
Stylewise, I think of them as like a woman wearing a signet ring...not my thing but whatever.
This message was edited 4/24/2021, 1:01 PM
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Ugh...
Where does it end? Will we just start naming our sons Thing One, Thing Two and so forth because nothing else is left? 'Cos "unisex" almost invariably turns into "that's a girl name". And apparently it only takes one celebrity baby to make that happen. I'm just really over it.
Where does it end? Will we just start naming our sons Thing One, Thing Two and so forth because nothing else is left? 'Cos "unisex" almost invariably turns into "that's a girl name". And apparently it only takes one celebrity baby to make that happen. I'm just really over it.
This message was edited 4/24/2021, 12:02 PM
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The name James has never been unisex. If people want to use it on their girls , fine, but don't reinvent an entire history just to feel secure about your naming choices. Just own it. You want to name your daughter James.
James is the anglicised version of Iacomus which is Latin for the Hebrew Yaacov or Jacob. Jacob was first belonging to a Hebrew man. I've heard of naming a girl "Jamie" after a James , but as far as history and facts are concerned, James belongs to men.
Wyatt, I dunno.
George? Are you kidding? The first and most popular George was St. George the dragon slayer, patron saint of England. Who was very much a man. George is the name of several saints and kings. Never heard of a Queen George or a Princess George.
There is however Georgina, Georgiana, Georgette. And the very unisex name of "Georgie". The only "George" I know who was a girl was "George" from the Famous Five. So.. there.
James is the anglicised version of Iacomus which is Latin for the Hebrew Yaacov or Jacob. Jacob was first belonging to a Hebrew man. I've heard of naming a girl "Jamie" after a James , but as far as history and facts are concerned, James belongs to men.
Wyatt, I dunno.
George? Are you kidding? The first and most popular George was St. George the dragon slayer, patron saint of England. Who was very much a man. George is the name of several saints and kings. Never heard of a Queen George or a Princess George.
There is however Georgina, Georgiana, Georgette. And the very unisex name of "Georgie". The only "George" I know who was a girl was "George" from the Famous Five. So.. there.
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I think it will be a passing fad, but a cold little voice at the back of my head says that this might be wishful thinking.
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