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Name variations as nicknames?
Hi all! Was wondering what you thought of the names Ysabel and Elsa. I know they're both variations of Elizabeth / Elisabeth, which frankly I just do not like. But If Ysabel is used, her nickname would probably end up being Elle, which would evolve into Elsie, which would then probably further evolve into Elsa.Do you think this is too much of a stretch? Thoughts?

This message was edited 7/17/2018, 6:39 AM

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Not at all. There are some “out there” nicknames and Ysabel nn. Elsa is hardly one of them. I personally think it’s really cute.
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If you want to call an Ysabel "Elsa", then okay, do it. I'd consider it a stretch, but I can see the connection. It would seem kind of like a Margaret being call Megan would, to me.But I don't find it believable that if you start out with Elle, it'd inevitably become Elsie, or that it'd then naturally turn into Elsa (the same way that if you started out with Meg, it wouldn't naturally become Megan).

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Elsa is a stretch as a nn for Ysabel. She’d have to correct her name from Isabel all the time. I also don’t think you’d automatically get Elsa from Elle.
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I like both names, especially Elsa, but I couldn't see the nn working out despite the connection between the names.
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First of all, I don't see the point of using Elsa as a nn for Ysabel. Why bother? Just name her Elsa, with Elsie as a plausible nn, and cut the cackle.And, secondly, whatever is the point of spelling Isabel with a Y? It will get very old very quickly, and so will the on-going need to explain. And, with any luck, your child will live longer than you will, and have to do her own explaining.
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Ysabel is a traditional spelling, though. It’s not “kree8tyve” or made up. And, at least imho, there is a point to be made for using a longer, sophisticated name and going by a short form. It offers the option of greater formality, which can be useful at times.
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Ysabel is Spanish ...But it doesn't seem to be the usual Spanish spelling anymore, at least in this country. Seems a bit old-fashioned as a Hispanic name, kind of like Juanita.
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I would use Ysabel if I wanted to assure the E-sah-bel pronunciation.
I imagine Isabel often has to correct people pronouncing it IZ-ah-bel.
Ysabel never has to do that.
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Doesn't it depend on which language you're using? Nobody would say 'PAris' in a French sentence except as a joke, just as saying 'pa-Ree' in an English sentence would be, let's say, odd. And if you knew that an Isabel was Spanish, then you'd ask which pronunciation she preferred: I know an Austrian woman who answers to both Ruth (rooth) and Rut (Root), but she says it divides pretty consistently according to whether English or German is being spoken.But, as far as OP's question is concerned, if she wants to use Elsa as a nn, then Isabel (with a Z sound) seems like the only reasonable route to take.
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I think Elsa is quite a stretch as a NN for Ysabel. But I think also, beside the shared origin, the deduction from YsabEL is visible /audible in ELsa. (for example: Not like Polly for Mary) So, it could work out.But, no matter what; just do not name that kid Ysabelsa xD
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I know that they both derive from Elizabeth but Ysabel nn Elsa feels really unnatural and awfully far fetched to me. If you like Elsa just go for it. It doesn't seem nickname-ish at all. I would also use Isabelle instead of Ysabel.
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Nicknames often present themselves once the child’s personality becomes apparent, and they often change over time. They can also have as much or as little to do with the original name as you want, really. But yes, purely aesthetically and logically, Elsa for Ysabel is a stretch.
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yes, it's very much a stretch ...If Ysabel got a nn at all, and there's no guarantee she would, it would probably be Izzy, or maybe Bella, or the traditional Spanish nn Chela.
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