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HelpA pitch for my own - and what a Pitch! (Ha Ha Ha)
The name Barbara is much older than Barbara Billingsly, Barbara Walters, and Barbara Bush. This name is a solid classic and not a flimsy, supercilious trend.
Barbara in any spelling variation is special through its heritage: through the legend of Saint Barbara, with her ties to the Rapunzel Tale. It is a Classical name - reaching back through the Middle Ages, notably in the Roman Civilization and beginning at the Grecian civilization. Intolerant Greeks originally used the name to imitate the sounds of those who did not speak their language; eventually it began to describe those who did not follow customs of Greece and eventually those of Rome - or the conventions of any given land. As Grecians traded with other civilizations - including the Persians, Egyptians, Romans, Phoenicians, and the Scythians: the name began to signify "beautiful, mysterious stranger", as popularity increased, spreading through neighboring, though still distant cultures.
The sound strength may seem brutal when the accents are not spoken to preference. The original intention "behind the name" sought mockery, and the onomatopoeia exemplifies this, yet further subjects this enduring classic to popularity trends--trends which it defines yet eventually defies. Children will learn to love it, as I have recently. There are numerous nick-names which soften it, like Barbie or even Barbs, either of which I adore and some folks still call me, this forty-not so much of-something guy, to this day.
I apologize - I am a guy with a name commonly associated with that of ladies. I found a new appreciation for my name, recently dropping the middle "a", and in my excitement, joined this site: but found harsh criticism recently posted against it. I apologize for rooting too much for my own. I am uncertain whether this belongs in another area of the site; I apologize if it does.
Barbara in any spelling variation is special through its heritage: through the legend of Saint Barbara, with her ties to the Rapunzel Tale. It is a Classical name - reaching back through the Middle Ages, notably in the Roman Civilization and beginning at the Grecian civilization. Intolerant Greeks originally used the name to imitate the sounds of those who did not speak their language; eventually it began to describe those who did not follow customs of Greece and eventually those of Rome - or the conventions of any given land. As Grecians traded with other civilizations - including the Persians, Egyptians, Romans, Phoenicians, and the Scythians: the name began to signify "beautiful, mysterious stranger", as popularity increased, spreading through neighboring, though still distant cultures.
The sound strength may seem brutal when the accents are not spoken to preference. The original intention "behind the name" sought mockery, and the onomatopoeia exemplifies this, yet further subjects this enduring classic to popularity trends--trends which it defines yet eventually defies. Children will learn to love it, as I have recently. There are numerous nick-names which soften it, like Barbie or even Barbs, either of which I adore and some folks still call me, this forty-not so much of-something guy, to this day.
I apologize - I am a guy with a name commonly associated with that of ladies. I found a new appreciation for my name, recently dropping the middle "a", and in my excitement, joined this site: but found harsh criticism recently posted against it. I apologize for rooting too much for my own. I am uncertain whether this belongs in another area of the site; I apologize if it does.
This message was edited 8/18/2015, 6:25 PM
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Don't mind some of the other posters here who are picking your post, which I enjoyed, apart. Any deviation from their patented brand of sour cynicism ruffles their very core.
This message was edited 8/22/2015, 10:49 AM
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A lesson learned; and I am sorry to have initiated the conflict - and for any hard feelings I may have caused. Under a new title, I will post a classic fictional excerpt of name hatred. A name a mother gives to a son is the same name the father write a dissertation "against".
I can definitely see how reading through that conflict would be enjoyable to someone uninvolved - yet more involved within the website community than I could ever be--especially after my "rude & stumbling & fumbling entry".
I can definitely see how reading through that conflict would be enjoyable to someone uninvolved - yet more involved within the website community than I could ever be--especially after my "rude & stumbling & fumbling entry".
This message was edited 8/23/2015, 7:42 AM
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Barbra, I'll be honest with you.
When I first read this post, I thought that you simply misunderstood the purpose of this Opinions Board and were focused too much on what people thought of one particular name (possibly even from the comments section on that name) and didn't realize that this board is meant for discussion.
Then, I read your responses to many of my fellow BtNers below.
Now, I'll note a few things.
One: You keep misusing the phrase "Could care less", which should be "Couldn't care less". Just an FYI because it is one of those things that bothers me irrationally.
Two: You are defending non-existent children. Several people have mentioned that children do not frequent this site, and especially do not venture into the Opinions board. Those that could or would, are likely aware of how the internet works and people's opinions. To keep repeating yourself about children is just confusing. We get your point, but I am not sure you get ours.
Three: You are purposely typing in a style that is meant to be wordy and sound proper. I don't mind posts that are overly wordy in general, but your responses are difficult to understand at best right now. I really like your language style, but just be aware that it's not easy to understand you.
Four: You apologize a lot, but then reiterate your point again in another post. This makes little sense, and makes your apologies seem trite (not that you needed to apologize in the first place).
As for the name Barbara, or even Barbra, I like it. It's not my favorite name, but I do like Barbie as well. I think it retro sweet. I would love to see a child with this name (with the original spelling), but find nothing overly special about an adult with this name since it used to be common.
Now, the fact that you are a boy with the name is interesting. I can't say I would ever consider it for a boy, and I am not really a fan of it for a boy. But, that is purely based on the name, and has nothing to do with you personally.
I will say, though, that Barbara is definitely dated whether we want to admit it or not.
I happen to like dated names. I named my daughter a variation on Clarice, and will name my second daughter Nadine. Both dated, but that is a plus for me. Not for others.
Welcome to the board. I see you have posted a bit before, and I encourage you to post more.
When I first read this post, I thought that you simply misunderstood the purpose of this Opinions Board and were focused too much on what people thought of one particular name (possibly even from the comments section on that name) and didn't realize that this board is meant for discussion.
Then, I read your responses to many of my fellow BtNers below.
Now, I'll note a few things.
One: You keep misusing the phrase "Could care less", which should be "Couldn't care less". Just an FYI because it is one of those things that bothers me irrationally.
Two: You are defending non-existent children. Several people have mentioned that children do not frequent this site, and especially do not venture into the Opinions board. Those that could or would, are likely aware of how the internet works and people's opinions. To keep repeating yourself about children is just confusing. We get your point, but I am not sure you get ours.
Three: You are purposely typing in a style that is meant to be wordy and sound proper. I don't mind posts that are overly wordy in general, but your responses are difficult to understand at best right now. I really like your language style, but just be aware that it's not easy to understand you.
Four: You apologize a lot, but then reiterate your point again in another post. This makes little sense, and makes your apologies seem trite (not that you needed to apologize in the first place).
As for the name Barbara, or even Barbra, I like it. It's not my favorite name, but I do like Barbie as well. I think it retro sweet. I would love to see a child with this name (with the original spelling), but find nothing overly special about an adult with this name since it used to be common.
Now, the fact that you are a boy with the name is interesting. I can't say I would ever consider it for a boy, and I am not really a fan of it for a boy. But, that is purely based on the name, and has nothing to do with you personally.
I will say, though, that Barbara is definitely dated whether we want to admit it or not.
I happen to like dated names. I named my daughter a variation on Clarice, and will name my second daughter Nadine. Both dated, but that is a plus for me. Not for others.
Welcome to the board. I see you have posted a bit before, and I encourage you to post more.
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Thank you for noticing the word omitted from the idiom, which I corrected. I truly did not understand the exact intention of "dated"--in the participle form, merely pertaining to name popularity. I certainly agree however that this name has not been popular for many years; nor did I know that any other males held this name until the past few months when I first accessed name sites, of which I've never known of any until quite recently. I joined this group wondering whether the earliest dates concerning the recorded use of my name might be learned - among other similar reasons. I saw imagination & conversation upon this site; conventions referenced on the FAQ panel enhanced the appeal.
Thank you for the welcome. I apologize frequently as, I am unusually humble, and, that I do not like the idea that I may disturb others - or that others are ever disturbed, and my thoughts which concern the protection of children more involve occasional or even regular potentials, rather than veracity found in daily conversation. I seek a more conventional diction for my posts - sorry. (I hoped that the "what a Pitch" phrase would be funny, if that helps at all...)
Thank you for the welcome. I apologize frequently as, I am unusually humble, and, that I do not like the idea that I may disturb others - or that others are ever disturbed, and my thoughts which concern the protection of children more involve occasional or even regular potentials, rather than veracity found in daily conversation. I seek a more conventional diction for my posts - sorry. (I hoped that the "what a Pitch" phrase would be funny, if that helps at all...)
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Read between the lines. I myself cannot be insulted, though others can, some of whom quite easily. I've heard it all already. I could not care less whether someone likes my name or a name of anyone else. Degrading a name however, considering that this is public, reflects more on the person degrading the name than the name itself; however children may not understand this, and may suffer without conscious understanding of these feelings. Will we resort to name calling next, as children in elementary school? It would be unlike me to not like a name, or perhaps, more appropriately stated with "Behind the Name", it would "not be my style", which is a softer form of dismissal...
My interest more concerns the history & heritage "Behind a Name" and others who might have an unusual name, which is why I joined the group. I did not intend to ruffle the feathers of anyone; sorry if I did - and I really am sorry.
My interest more concerns the history & heritage "Behind a Name" and others who might have an unusual name, which is why I joined the group. I did not intend to ruffle the feathers of anyone; sorry if I did - and I really am sorry.
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Who are all these children you're talking about? You keep saying children will stumble upon this website and be hurt by negative comments, but I have been a member for seven years, and I can tell you that children do not frequent this website. I think you're using the Helen Lovejoy hand-wringing as a tactic to try to get people to like the name because you can't be confident and just like it yourself.
Also, if disliking a name reflects more on me than the name itself, so be it. I'm a big meanie for thinking Barbra/Barbara is a terrible, dated name that should never be used on one of the poor, unsuspecting children again. Whoop-dee-doo.
Also, if disliking a name reflects more on me than the name itself, so be it. I'm a big meanie for thinking Barbra/Barbara is a terrible, dated name that should never be used on one of the poor, unsuspecting children again. Whoop-dee-doo.
This message was edited 8/19/2015, 9:36 PM
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Still not into it, sorry.
However, I don't make an association between Barbara and Barbarian, really. The emphasis is totally different. Dropping the middle A, to me, takes it from being "regular lady name" to "They're coming to get you, Barbra!"
However, I don't make an association between Barbara and Barbarian, really. The emphasis is totally different. Dropping the middle A, to me, takes it from being "regular lady name" to "They're coming to get you, Barbra!"
This message was edited 8/19/2015, 4:32 PM
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Hysterical & Apropos - and probably deserved
This is funny and so apropos! They came to get me alright! I've never seen this movie, but know it's name quite well. He who threatens her is the one they come to get. No Barbra could be stranger than a Barbra that's a male.
Barbra is not an easy name to like. My only saving grace in terms of names is to be an Ugly Betty or a Penelope, the Christina Ricci Character.
I always laugh when ladies complain "I just got ma'am'ed".
This is funny and so apropos! They came to get me alright! I've never seen this movie, but know it's name quite well. He who threatens her is the one they come to get. No Barbra could be stranger than a Barbra that's a male.
Barbra is not an easy name to like. My only saving grace in terms of names is to be an Ugly Betty or a Penelope, the Christina Ricci Character.
I always laugh when ladies complain "I just got ma'am'ed".
This message was edited 8/22/2015, 8:58 AM
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I'm sorry, you're not going to make people love your name by telling them why they should. I feel like I see you defending the name a lot and that indicates to me that you're still quite insecure about it. Learn to love your name completely and you won't feel the need to defend it to others.
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I agree. Thought perhaps, apparently "He" is just giving background knowledge about the name. Either way, It's easy to see why so many people aren't too fond over it.
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I could care less if folks like "my" name or the name Barbara; nor do I need folks to like me, although I have many friends. I am however protective for the feelings of others; other people have this name including children. I've been teased enough - if you can imagine--a guy with such a name--though still not so much, really to be callous to additional teasing; however, not everyone is strong- especially children, who might question their on names, and look upon the internet, and ascertain disparagement by the degradation. This has little to do with Barbara, but the defense of any name.
I can find beautiful value in a pile of dirt, as I can in the clouds. I love to see a name--or even an premise that I initially dislike for some trite reason, but then think further (or see an opinion of other folks, which I may not have considered,) and think differently. I have then learned a valuable lesson. My own trite and petty opinions are not more valuable than the feelings of another - especially those of a querying child. This has little to do with my name.
I can find beautiful value in a pile of dirt, as I can in the clouds. I love to see a name--or even an premise that I initially dislike for some trite reason, but then think further (or see an opinion of other folks, which I may not have considered,) and think differently. I have then learned a valuable lesson. My own trite and petty opinions are not more valuable than the feelings of another - especially those of a querying child. This has little to do with my name.
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By all means, we'll change the name of the board from Name Opinions Board to Name Only Positive Opinions Please It's All Sweetness and Light Here Board, in deference to those poor defenseless children who don't have the reading comprehension level to even come here and those random strangers who might happen along and read someone say something really mean about their name and then go look for a rope to hang themselves with. Oh, the degradation!
You are still not getting this, are you?
You are still not getting this, are you?
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LOL
:)
:)
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And......
Nobody here thinks their opinion is more valuable than anyone else's.
Recognizing that all opinions are equal is not a reason to not have and express opinions.
Nobody here thinks their opinion is more valuable than anyone else's.
Recognizing that all opinions are equal is not a reason to not have and express opinions.
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A thought, word, name, or idea may be classified as an opinion, while it may, simultaneously, be classified differently - even legally in certain instances, countries, or cultures. It is a wide, wide, web in a wider wilder world in which we opine (ha ha). (Still, may bad - ...)
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I like Barbara, though I suppose it is a bit repetitive. And I've known gazillions of them, so many that I can't associate it with a physical or personality type. Good, generic name.
I do, though, prefer it in the full-length form. Barbra is, if possible, even less distinguished-looking than Debra. Come to think of it, they both contain ladies' underwear - perhaps that's my problem.
How did you come to get such a remarkable name? Was it important in your family?
I do, though, prefer it in the full-length form. Barbra is, if possible, even less distinguished-looking than Debra. Come to think of it, they both contain ladies' underwear - perhaps that's my problem.
How did you come to get such a remarkable name? Was it important in your family?
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...to be brief - I was named after an aunt.
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Meh, I don't like Barbara and not even the most eloquent post/pitch can change that. There are lots of people who hate my name but I don't care. I assume that they don't hate me, just my name, and that's fine.
If you are a male named Barbara/Barbra, that's very interesting. I would like to know why your parents chose that name for you.
I've wanted to get a cat named Barbro for quite some time. I think it's an awesome name for a cat and with the possiblity of numerous nicknames, which a cat definitely needs. :)
If you are a male named Barbara/Barbra, that's very interesting. I would like to know why your parents chose that name for you.
I've wanted to get a cat named Barbro for quite some time. I think it's an awesome name for a cat and with the possiblity of numerous nicknames, which a cat definitely needs. :)
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I was named after an aunt. The unique nature of having such a name, the sound of which can be so strong that it is offensive; or yet to others--appealing; to have a name so deeply steeped with association of the opposite gender causes confusion in others - as I do not look or act as though I would or even could have such a "girlish" name. It is a blessing, however. No-one forgets me, and girls love to yell and repeat my nickname...
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" I am a guy with a name commonly associated with that of ladies"
Wait, your male and your name is Barbara? That's really quite interesting. I know Barbara was used (sparingly) on males in the early 20th century, but I've never met anyone male with the name. What made your parents choose it?
In response to your other comments, people are allowed to dislike certain names for any reason they choose. Being a legitimate name with a lot of history doesn't mean people have to like it. I'm sure very few people are pushing for the revival of Nimrod. It's best not to take peoples comments about the names personally, just because they don't like a name doesn't mean they don't like you.
Towards your dated comments, names that go through a massive surge of popularity for a few years tend to be thought of as dated. Especially those that have a major jump in popularity and then a steep drop off as Barbara did (Barbara was the #119th most popular girls name in 1911 and had jumped up to #40 in 1921, it was in the top ten by 1927 then started declining fairly quickly in the 70's.)
Barbara /Barbra are in the generation of names that were popular among the upcoming generations grandparents, which seem to get a lot of disparaging comments. Barbara, Douglas, Linda, Donald, Donna etc. are names that are extremely common among our parents so they seem old-fashioned and dated. Names that are currently popular like Ava and Olivia went through the same thing a few decades ago. Barbara may gain traction again, it may not. Time will tell.
Personally, I don't like Barbara because it was my grandmother who was not a very nice person. I do however like Varvara, I met one a few years ago and developed a soft spot, so perhaps without the personal association I would like it.
Wait, your male and your name is Barbara? That's really quite interesting. I know Barbara was used (sparingly) on males in the early 20th century, but I've never met anyone male with the name. What made your parents choose it?
In response to your other comments, people are allowed to dislike certain names for any reason they choose. Being a legitimate name with a lot of history doesn't mean people have to like it. I'm sure very few people are pushing for the revival of Nimrod. It's best not to take peoples comments about the names personally, just because they don't like a name doesn't mean they don't like you.
Towards your dated comments, names that go through a massive surge of popularity for a few years tend to be thought of as dated. Especially those that have a major jump in popularity and then a steep drop off as Barbara did (Barbara was the #119th most popular girls name in 1911 and had jumped up to #40 in 1921, it was in the top ten by 1927 then started declining fairly quickly in the 70's.)
Barbara /Barbra are in the generation of names that were popular among the upcoming generations grandparents, which seem to get a lot of disparaging comments. Barbara, Douglas, Linda, Donald, Donna etc. are names that are extremely common among our parents so they seem old-fashioned and dated. Names that are currently popular like Ava and Olivia went through the same thing a few decades ago. Barbara may gain traction again, it may not. Time will tell.
Personally, I don't like Barbara because it was my grandmother who was not a very nice person. I do however like Varvara, I met one a few years ago and developed a soft spot, so perhaps without the personal association I would like it.
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My curiosity on "dated" merely involves wonder about how far back - how old my name might be. I read a great deal of classic literature, mythology, ancient as well as medieval history; I love folk lore. I love the idea that the root of my name (Barbaros) might reach as far back as the Trojan War--I do not have any evidence that it does--yet I always wonder if there is evidence of when such a date might be.
I could really care less whether people like my name. Most folks are initially confused; or initially all me Miss, but then see me - and grow more confused - it is all good stuff. Ladies tell me that I have a young face - and that I look as though I am in my twenties - and love the nickname, as it works so well with my last ... I do not use a handle-name, yet I do find it interesting that some folks use handle names on the "Behind the Name" site. This may be worth a query for responses.
I do not think it is fair to speak of my parents and "the why"; I have however just come to recent acceptance and love of my name - part of this may involve (the end of) a mid-life crisis?
I could really care less whether people like my name. Most folks are initially confused; or initially all me Miss, but then see me - and grow more confused - it is all good stuff. Ladies tell me that I have a young face - and that I look as though I am in my twenties - and love the nickname, as it works so well with my last ... I do not use a handle-name, yet I do find it interesting that some folks use handle names on the "Behind the Name" site. This may be worth a query for responses.
I do not think it is fair to speak of my parents and "the why"; I have however just come to recent acceptance and love of my name - part of this may involve (the end of) a mid-life crisis?
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I hadn't made a connection until now, that my childrens' joke nonsense phrase BAR BAR BAR is actually equivalent to the origin of the name Barbara!
That is fun. I thought that barbaros was really just a Greek word meaning foreign.
We do this goofy thing with our car's voice command feature ... when it is waiting for input the kids say BAR BAR BAR, and a robotic female voice says "please repeat!" so ... they say it again, BAR BAR BAR ... and she asks again for us to please repeat. (Well, car rides can be boring. and I have a lame sense of humor maybe.) Anyway I think the car's voice has a new name: Barbara! My husband had wanted to call it Prudence, but I think Barbara fits much better.
I agree the name is classic and respectable, but I'm afraid the connotation of beautiful strangers is going to have to be a thing of another generation (which it could be in the future as well as the past). To me it's the name of my friends' mothers when I was growing up, women born in the 40s - and one of the harshest sounding classic feminine names that isn't Germanic. And Barbie is the doll. As a child I recall thinking it was a weirdly unfashionable and old name for a doll that is supposed to be super fashionable and youthful.
Anyway thanks for the tidbit that will always make me smile about the name Barbara. Which is not a bad name, I agree - I just won't ever find it appealing. (Well come to think of it, if I start calling my car that, I might, a little bit!) If your name is really Barbara / Barbra, good for you for choosing to be positive about it. People not liking a person's name doesn't really amount to anything at all in real life, IMO.
That is fun. I thought that barbaros was really just a Greek word meaning foreign.
We do this goofy thing with our car's voice command feature ... when it is waiting for input the kids say BAR BAR BAR, and a robotic female voice says "please repeat!" so ... they say it again, BAR BAR BAR ... and she asks again for us to please repeat. (Well, car rides can be boring. and I have a lame sense of humor maybe.) Anyway I think the car's voice has a new name: Barbara! My husband had wanted to call it Prudence, but I think Barbara fits much better.
I agree the name is classic and respectable, but I'm afraid the connotation of beautiful strangers is going to have to be a thing of another generation (which it could be in the future as well as the past). To me it's the name of my friends' mothers when I was growing up, women born in the 40s - and one of the harshest sounding classic feminine names that isn't Germanic. And Barbie is the doll. As a child I recall thinking it was a weirdly unfashionable and old name for a doll that is supposed to be super fashionable and youthful.
Anyway thanks for the tidbit that will always make me smile about the name Barbara. Which is not a bad name, I agree - I just won't ever find it appealing. (Well come to think of it, if I start calling my car that, I might, a little bit!) If your name is really Barbara / Barbra, good for you for choosing to be positive about it. People not liking a person's name doesn't really amount to anything at all in real life, IMO.
This message was edited 8/18/2015, 10:55 PM
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Adult Greeks themselves said "Bar-Bar" to mock foreigners
Yes - the Greeks themselves said "Bar-Bar" to mock foreigners who did not speak Greek; as Kids mock the computer but more laughing in fun than in intolerance. Over time - due to some personal tastes, the name was also identified with strange exoticism - and grew more exclusively appropriated with women than men, although I do not know the number of males who might have had such a name among the ancients, which could have been few or none.
I know a lady who named her car Barbara; which brought to buy the little Barbie Doll for my dash board.
Yes - the Greeks themselves said "Bar-Bar" to mock foreigners who did not speak Greek; as Kids mock the computer but more laughing in fun than in intolerance. Over time - due to some personal tastes, the name was also identified with strange exoticism - and grew more exclusively appropriated with women than men, although I do not know the number of males who might have had such a name among the ancients, which could have been few or none.
I know a lady who named her car Barbara; which brought to buy the little Barbie Doll for my dash board.
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Interesting that you mention this about the car.
I dropped the middle "a" to further distance the name from the connotations of Bar- bar / Barbarian. I am in New Yorker - and I've never heard the middle 'A' of the middle syllable pronounced, so I abbreviated the spelling accordingly.
As more of a thinker & dreamer, I've never had dolls of any sort--not even many toys when growing up, but as I found this new acceptance, and grew exited about the name's heritage - especially about the correlation between the legend of Saint Barbara and the Rapunzel Fairy Tale, so I acquired a small Barbie Doll to sit on my car dashboard - as though a protector and governess, as the US Navy adopted Saint Barbara as protector of ships and crew.
I understand and even feel, as it were, the sentiment that the name Barbara is "old". It is, simultaneously, classy.
I believe that the Barbie diminutive is quite young, and this is the name I am usually called--especially by younger ladies, who continuously re-iterate my name when they see me.
I dropped the middle "a" to further distance the name from the connotations of Bar- bar / Barbarian. I am in New Yorker - and I've never heard the middle 'A' of the middle syllable pronounced, so I abbreviated the spelling accordingly.
As more of a thinker & dreamer, I've never had dolls of any sort--not even many toys when growing up, but as I found this new acceptance, and grew exited about the name's heritage - especially about the correlation between the legend of Saint Barbara and the Rapunzel Fairy Tale, so I acquired a small Barbie Doll to sit on my car dashboard - as though a protector and governess, as the US Navy adopted Saint Barbara as protector of ships and crew.
I understand and even feel, as it were, the sentiment that the name Barbara is "old". It is, simultaneously, classy.
I believe that the Barbie diminutive is quite young, and this is the name I am usually called--especially by younger ladies, who continuously re-iterate my name when they see me.
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TL;DR
But, you know...
welcome! ;)
But, you know...
welcome! ;)
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Thank You!
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The original intention "behind the name" sought mockery, and the onomatopoeia exemplifies this
What the hell does that mean?
The name Barbara is much older than Barbara Billingsly, Barbara Walters, and Barbara Bush. This name is a solid classic and not a flimsy, supercilious trend.
I don't recall anyone saying that it isn't older than those three women or that it isn't a classic or that it is a flimsy trend. But we have just as much right to dislike classic, non-trendy names as we do the opposite.
I accept your apology, but I am tired of people getting butt-hurt on this board. That's the fastest way to kill it.
Also, you're not supposed to make a post that doesn't ask a question.
Personally, I hate the name Barbara. One reason for this may be that it was the name of my father's first wife and I resented her existence when I first learned of it and have nurtured a life-long dislike of her. And yes, I know that the name Barbara is older than she was.
What the hell does that mean?
The name Barbara is much older than Barbara Billingsly, Barbara Walters, and Barbara Bush. This name is a solid classic and not a flimsy, supercilious trend.
I don't recall anyone saying that it isn't older than those three women or that it isn't a classic or that it is a flimsy trend. But we have just as much right to dislike classic, non-trendy names as we do the opposite.
I accept your apology, but I am tired of people getting butt-hurt on this board. That's the fastest way to kill it.
Also, you're not supposed to make a post that doesn't ask a question.
Personally, I hate the name Barbara. One reason for this may be that it was the name of my father's first wife and I resented her existence when I first learned of it and have nurtured a life-long dislike of her. And yes, I know that the name Barbara is older than she was.
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Agree about the whiny butt-hurt attitude killing the board. Why does EVERYONE have to like the names YOU like? I never understood that. Why do some people allow themselves to be so damn fragile?
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I recently read on this site that the name is dated. So I ask - what or which date?
I would like to know - and I am never sarcastic, and do not ask this sarcastically. I did however believe that a member endeavored to degrade the name - that is all: I have this name - yet I am not the only person to have it.
The onomatopoeia in this name, a name first intended to insult i.e. "bar-bar" (barbarian) & isolate as "different, foreign, or uncivilized", a name which annunciates so strongly, easily facilitates associations to combine with memory, and this name is not easily forgotten: this may have occurred in the example you have provided.
I am uncertain of your exact intention with butt-hurt, as I do not participate or engage in vulgar communication. As with the written word - I endeavor to remain precise; when communicating with others, I endeavor to remain positive, as real people carry the names on which we opine, and some who may read the opinions may be children, who are, more probably than not, are more vulnerable and more easily hurt by critique & negativity than adults. I did see however that the name has clearly been degraded. I am unusually strong, a strength furnished by the depth of my kindness and consideration for others. I am never hurt, yet I am always bothered by careless disregard for others.
It seems that the "Name Opinions Message Board" is for:
"For opinion-based posts or questions about names: baby name suggestions, character names, name aesthetics, etc." - so a question is not necessary on this board.
I apologize if anything I have written has offended you in any way. I have not added any new or unknown facts about this name or about history.
I would like to know - and I am never sarcastic, and do not ask this sarcastically. I did however believe that a member endeavored to degrade the name - that is all: I have this name - yet I am not the only person to have it.
The onomatopoeia in this name, a name first intended to insult i.e. "bar-bar" (barbarian) & isolate as "different, foreign, or uncivilized", a name which annunciates so strongly, easily facilitates associations to combine with memory, and this name is not easily forgotten: this may have occurred in the example you have provided.
I am uncertain of your exact intention with butt-hurt, as I do not participate or engage in vulgar communication. As with the written word - I endeavor to remain precise; when communicating with others, I endeavor to remain positive, as real people carry the names on which we opine, and some who may read the opinions may be children, who are, more probably than not, are more vulnerable and more easily hurt by critique & negativity than adults. I did see however that the name has clearly been degraded. I am unusually strong, a strength furnished by the depth of my kindness and consideration for others. I am never hurt, yet I am always bothered by careless disregard for others.
It seems that the "Name Opinions Message Board" is for:
"For opinion-based posts or questions about names: baby name suggestions, character names, name aesthetics, etc." - so a question is not necessary on this board.
I apologize if anything I have written has offended you in any way. I have not added any new or unknown facts about this name or about history.
This message was edited 8/20/2015, 2:20 AM
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Definition of "butthurt": An inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived personal insult.
My exact intention was to tell you this: You are attempting to give people here a hard time about, and make them feel ashamed of, the fact that they posted negative opinions of the name Barbara and that is inappropriate, because this board should be open to all opinions. This isn't the place for "endeavoring to remain positive", or worrying about children, (and I don't think any children read this board), or anyone being easily hurt. You come on here as a newcomer and attempt to change the purpose of the board and shame the long time regulars and that's a jerky thing to do. I hope that's clear enough for you.
My exact intention was to tell you this: You are attempting to give people here a hard time about, and make them feel ashamed of, the fact that they posted negative opinions of the name Barbara and that is inappropriate, because this board should be open to all opinions. This isn't the place for "endeavoring to remain positive", or worrying about children, (and I don't think any children read this board), or anyone being easily hurt. You come on here as a newcomer and attempt to change the purpose of the board and shame the long time regulars and that's a jerky thing to do. I hope that's clear enough for you.
This message was edited 8/19/2015, 7:07 PM
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My bad (smile)
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