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in reply to a message by Lily
I was just making a suggestion. And it actually doesn't get misspelled as Hailey. I have a niece named Hayley and no one has spelled it wrong yet.
As for trendiness, I'm not sure what you're basing your statement off of. If you're talking about American stats, Hadley is actually way more popular.
The trendiness I'm thinking about is not only about current stats, but also how quickly the name rises and falls (which dates it to a particular time).
See, Hadley went from not on the charts at all before 1998, where it debuted at #964. In 1999 it wasn't on the charts, then in 2000 it was at #919. Now, in the latest stats (2011), its at #178, which is a HUGE rise over a relatively short amount of time, ten years. In the next ten years, it will most likely drop quickly.
Hayley, in contrast, may have been more consistently popular over the last 30 to 40 odd years, but I wouldn't call it trendy. It first made the top 1000 in 1977 and has stayed on there since, usually between the 140-500 position.
Anyway, I'm not trying to talk you into Hayley at all, and if you like Hadley, that's your business, but I'm just explaining why for me Hadley is way more trendy than Hayley.
As for trendiness, I'm not sure what you're basing your statement off of. If you're talking about American stats, Hadley is actually way more popular.
The trendiness I'm thinking about is not only about current stats, but also how quickly the name rises and falls (which dates it to a particular time).
See, Hadley went from not on the charts at all before 1998, where it debuted at #964. In 1999 it wasn't on the charts, then in 2000 it was at #919. Now, in the latest stats (2011), its at #178, which is a HUGE rise over a relatively short amount of time, ten years. In the next ten years, it will most likely drop quickly.
Hayley, in contrast, may have been more consistently popular over the last 30 to 40 odd years, but I wouldn't call it trendy. It first made the top 1000 in 1977 and has stayed on there since, usually between the 140-500 position.
Anyway, I'm not trying to talk you into Hayley at all, and if you like Hadley, that's your business, but I'm just explaining why for me Hadley is way more trendy than Hayley.
This message was edited 12/21/2012, 5:32 PM
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You forgot to combine spellings. Hayley, Hailey and Haylee as well as a billion other spellings all sound the same. When you combine their popularity Hayley is insanely common. I have a friend named Hayley and it always gets misspelled as Hailey or sometimes Haley. Hailey and Haley are way more common than Hayley so that makes sense. Hayley also had a huge jump in popularity (well, Hailey actually but they're the same name as I said, just spelled differently). Almost no variant spellings of Hadley are being used (at least none make the top 1000) while Hailey, Haley, Hayley, Hailee and Haylee all make the top 10000 and I think several others as well.
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I agree that Hadley is currently trendier than Hayley. But, Hayley is actually far more popular if you combine the various spellings. With spellings combined, Hadley is #175 (2176) and Hayley is #15 (12438). Hailey is by far the most common spelling, so I'm surprised your niece has never had her name misspelled.
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We don't live in the US. :)
Popularity doesn't bother my sister (and if the OP is considering Hadley than it probably doesn't matter too much to her either). I just wanted to explain what I meant when I said Hadley was trendier than Hayley. :)
Popularity doesn't bother my sister (and if the OP is considering Hadley than it probably doesn't matter too much to her either). I just wanted to explain what I meant when I said Hadley was trendier than Hayley. :)
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That's fine, but I disagree. To me Hayley is a lot trendier. And popularity does matter to me. Hayley is in the top 20 when you combine spellings, Hadley doesn't even make the top 100. A name outside the top 100 can hardly be called common. It might get common but it isn't yet. Trendy, maybe, but as I said I find it a lot less trendy than Hayley.
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Butting in, but doesn't trendy mean something that becomes suddenly much more popular for a relatively short period of time?
I'm guessing that doesn't really describe Hayley, since I knew a bunch growing up in the 80s and there are still a bunch now.
So for me...HAyley would be more popular/common, but Hadley would be more trendy.
I'm guessing that doesn't really describe Hayley, since I knew a bunch growing up in the 80s and there are still a bunch now.
So for me...HAyley would be more popular/common, but Hadley would be more trendy.
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Do we know whether Hadley will become popular for a short period of time? Or whether it will become popular at all? I think we don't.
We simply know more about Hayley because it has had its time in the sun and the name (by which I mean all spellings) is falling now. We don't know whether Hadley will ever make the top 150 or whether it will stay common for 5 years or 50 we can just guess.
To me trendiness has a lot to do with trendy sounds and variant spellings. Kaylynn isn't that common but super trendy. Not because it's rising quickly, but because of the variant spellings and the similarity to Caitlin. McKayley would be super trendy to me and that definitely isn't rising.
Hadley to me doesn't have any common sounds apart from the -ley ending which puts it in a group with all -ley surnames, but I wouldn't call them horribly trendy as -ley surnames as first names have been around for girls for decades starting with Shirley in the 20s. Had- is a pretty uncommon sound, I can't think of any other name that starts with it. So to me it's not that trendy.
I do admit that it might be tiny bit trendy because of its quick rise but to me just not nearly as much as Hayley, which also includes the common AY sound found in everything from Cayden to Aidan to Brayden to Kayley, Kayla, Makayla and Jayden.
I don't want to put Hayley down or anything, it's one of my favorite names. But because I like it so much I've thought about this so much and Hayley to me just includes every single element of trendy whereas Hadley I put more in a category with Aspen and Ansley or something. Maybe a bit trendy because of a rise in popularity but still quite distinctive in sound.
We simply know more about Hayley because it has had its time in the sun and the name (by which I mean all spellings) is falling now. We don't know whether Hadley will ever make the top 150 or whether it will stay common for 5 years or 50 we can just guess.
To me trendiness has a lot to do with trendy sounds and variant spellings. Kaylynn isn't that common but super trendy. Not because it's rising quickly, but because of the variant spellings and the similarity to Caitlin. McKayley would be super trendy to me and that definitely isn't rising.
Hadley to me doesn't have any common sounds apart from the -ley ending which puts it in a group with all -ley surnames, but I wouldn't call them horribly trendy as -ley surnames as first names have been around for girls for decades starting with Shirley in the 20s. Had- is a pretty uncommon sound, I can't think of any other name that starts with it. So to me it's not that trendy.
I do admit that it might be tiny bit trendy because of its quick rise but to me just not nearly as much as Hayley, which also includes the common AY sound found in everything from Cayden to Aidan to Brayden to Kayley, Kayla, Makayla and Jayden.
I don't want to put Hayley down or anything, it's one of my favorite names. But because I like it so much I've thought about this so much and Hayley to me just includes every single element of trendy whereas Hadley I put more in a category with Aspen and Ansley or something. Maybe a bit trendy because of a rise in popularity but still quite distinctive in sound.
This message was edited 12/22/2012, 4:36 PM
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