Re: Veronica
in reply to a message by Lily
I love Veronica. I actually had it on my list in the "Choose one" thread, then remembered that I would like to put Jerusha and Jacinda on there, so I had to choose two to go, and Veronica was one. But I do love it. I tend to really like girls' names that start with a V, and I tend to like long names, and Veronica fits both of those.
I don't think it's dated because it's never been popular, at least not in the US. I've never known one of any age. But....I would never use it because, unlike yourself, I hate the nickname Roni or Ronnie on a girl. I keep thinking that no matter how much I tried to avoid it, if I named a daughter Veronica, she'd end up being called Roni\Ronnie. So that's why it's a name I would never actually use.
I far prefer Veronica to Heather. I don't like Heather at all. AT ALL. It doesn't have a history or a pedigree, it's flighty, the flower heather isn't really all that attractive, IMO, but most of all, I just don't think it sounds pretty. I hate the harsh TH sound in the middle. Its former massive popularity completely mystifies me. My niece's name is Heather, and several times my sister (her mom) mentioned what a beautiful name Heather is, and each time I had to bite my tongue to keep from saying, "Hell, no, it isn't."
Was it really that common back in the days? YES. I have known seven Heathers, now ranging in age from six to fifty. The six-year-old and the fifty-year-old are anomalies, one named before the name became popular and one named after it had lost popularity. The others are in their twenties and thirties. Once my niece Heather went to a party. The next day, my sister asked her who was at the party. What she heard was, "Heather So-and-So, Heather So-and-So, Heather So-and-So.."
As you can see, Heather is a name that I feel strongly about, but the feelings are negative. There's a reason there's a movie called "Heathers", because the name is so so typical of a certain age group. Name that came out of nowhere, unleashed a passel of Heathers on the world, who almost all are going to be dated to a time period, and is now sinking like a stone. I think it's a terrible name to ever have given one's daughter.
I don't think it's dated because it's never been popular, at least not in the US. I've never known one of any age. But....I would never use it because, unlike yourself, I hate the nickname Roni or Ronnie on a girl. I keep thinking that no matter how much I tried to avoid it, if I named a daughter Veronica, she'd end up being called Roni\Ronnie. So that's why it's a name I would never actually use.
I far prefer Veronica to Heather. I don't like Heather at all. AT ALL. It doesn't have a history or a pedigree, it's flighty, the flower heather isn't really all that attractive, IMO, but most of all, I just don't think it sounds pretty. I hate the harsh TH sound in the middle. Its former massive popularity completely mystifies me. My niece's name is Heather, and several times my sister (her mom) mentioned what a beautiful name Heather is, and each time I had to bite my tongue to keep from saying, "Hell, no, it isn't."
Was it really that common back in the days? YES. I have known seven Heathers, now ranging in age from six to fifty. The six-year-old and the fifty-year-old are anomalies, one named before the name became popular and one named after it had lost popularity. The others are in their twenties and thirties. Once my niece Heather went to a party. The next day, my sister asked her who was at the party. What she heard was, "Heather So-and-So, Heather So-and-So, Heather So-and-So.."
As you can see, Heather is a name that I feel strongly about, but the feelings are negative. There's a reason there's a movie called "Heathers", because the name is so so typical of a certain age group. Name that came out of nowhere, unleashed a passel of Heathers on the world, who almost all are going to be dated to a time period, and is now sinking like a stone. I think it's a terrible name to ever have given one's daughter.
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what's funny...
Is, I'm told that in the UK, Heather is more of a grandmother's or older name than a young person's. Hard to picture.
I've known three Veronicas, and none of them were called Ronnie/Roni. One of them is called Rocky. She got that name because when was about six she was struck by a car near her mailbox and nearly died, had to learn to walk and talk all over again. The physical therapists and/or nurses started calling her Rocky because she fought so hard and so successfully to recover. She's a teenager now and is only really called Rocky by her parents, sometimes.
Is, I'm told that in the UK, Heather is more of a grandmother's or older name than a young person's. Hard to picture.
I've known three Veronicas, and none of them were called Ronnie/Roni. One of them is called Rocky. She got that name because when was about six she was struck by a car near her mailbox and nearly died, had to learn to walk and talk all over again. The physical therapists and/or nurses started calling her Rocky because she fought so hard and so successfully to recover. She's a teenager now and is only really called Rocky by her parents, sometimes.
Heather was in the top 100 in the UK in 1934 and peaked in 1954 (at #56). So yup, a lot of older Heathers about here.
Aww Rocky. :)
Aww Rocky. :)
Hmmm... I know a lot of young Heathers here, so I don't know who told you that one. Young Heathers are not uncommon and older Heathers are not common. It's not an overall common name, so... yeah, I don't know.
It still feels dated. It is a name which will always be claustrophobically dated. Ick, says the person who had to suffer horrible Heathers. I just feel it feels old, so maybe there's a feeling that it's old here in the UK, even if the trends don't necessarily mirror that.
I have a semi-paralysed or severely-traumatised, medical mystery friend who's trying to learn to walk again through therapy... I love your Rocky story! It's a great nickname for someone who fights so hard for so little that it's scary, and having seen it first hand, people like that are soooo amazing, impressive and vulnerable-tough, they should all get awesome nicknames. And medals. I wish my friend could steal Rocky as a nickname. It's such tearjerking bravery and awesomeness, and you get the impression that if they -can- overcome it, they will try their damnest to do so, even if it means overcomming impossible odds... so I think that it's a really fitting and really rather lovely nickname.
It still feels dated. It is a name which will always be claustrophobically dated. Ick, says the person who had to suffer horrible Heathers. I just feel it feels old, so maybe there's a feeling that it's old here in the UK, even if the trends don't necessarily mirror that.
I have a semi-paralysed or severely-traumatised, medical mystery friend who's trying to learn to walk again through therapy... I love your Rocky story! It's a great nickname for someone who fights so hard for so little that it's scary, and having seen it first hand, people like that are soooo amazing, impressive and vulnerable-tough, they should all get awesome nicknames. And medals. I wish my friend could steal Rocky as a nickname. It's such tearjerking bravery and awesomeness, and you get the impression that if they -can- overcome it, they will try their damnest to do so, even if it means overcomming impossible odds... so I think that it's a really fitting and really rather lovely nickname.
This message was edited 5/26/2012, 6:11 PM
I guess you answered the question that I just put to SJayne! She must be from the UK.
Your story about Rocky is a reminder to us all that it's always possible for our children to end up with some nickname that we never imagined.
Your story about Rocky is a reminder to us all that it's always possible for our children to end up with some nickname that we never imagined.
Like the kid I went to elementary and middle school with. His name was really ray, and his last name kind of rhymed a little bit with pasture. One day some kids were horsing around in the playground and one of Ray's shoes got tossed over the fence into a cow pasture. He climbed across to get it and a cow/bull (forget which) saw him and started for him and he nearly pulled the fence down getting back over it. Ever after he was known as Cow Pasture Last Name that Kinda Rhymes with Pasture.
Or some friends of mine. Their son is named Joshua, but when he was first learning to get around, instead of crawling he would get up on his feet and hands, just like a Monkey. He was called Monkey for years.
Or some friends of mine. Their son is named Joshua, but when he was first learning to get around, instead of crawling he would get up on his feet and hands, just like a Monkey. He was called Monkey for years.
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This message was edited 5/27/2012, 4:38 AM
Ick