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in reply to a message by Caralena Estelle
Are we a little too much on this site? I'm just thinking in general. There is nothing wrong with these names. Maybe we would do "better" at naming them, at least in our own point of view, but they probably wouldn't like the names most of the people on the board would choose, and would feel they did better. Regular people don't obsess with names for years like most of us. Like someone here mentioned a while ago, it's like art. There is no perfect piece.
I read somewhere about a woman who, before she got married, her husband told her he had to name his daughter Clotilde after his great grandmother, or someone. When she found out she was expecting a girl, she bawled her eyes out. She only called her Cloe for her own sanity.
They are pretty solid names.
I think they did alright.
Don't shoot me, k?
I read somewhere about a woman who, before she got married, her husband told her he had to name his daughter Clotilde after his great grandmother, or someone. When she found out she was expecting a girl, she bawled her eyes out. She only called her Cloe for her own sanity.
They are pretty solid names.
I think they did alright.
Don't shoot me, k?
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I'm going to rather disagree with you here. In a way.
First: Nobody would say that the parents don't have a right to name their children what they want. Pretty obviously, they named them what they wanted to and what they thought best, and everyone knows that very likely they would still prefer these names to whatever we choose. But everyone here has a right to an opinion on the names, and that's all anyone would be doing--stating an opinion. It's very common for people here to make a post about a name given to a real-life baby and ask for opinions. I've done it myself. Isn't that the point of a name opinions board? What's wrong with giving an opinion where the parents are very unlikely to see it anyway?
Also...I think these names are very boring--nothing *inherently* wrong with them, but overuse and popularity makes them boring. I always feel impatient by people who use overly popular names, because *in my opinion* it's a bad idea to use a name that does nothing to distinguish a child and will some day date him or her. I think that's all the OP meant to say, and that's her opinion and mine and we have a right to it, and if we can't state it here on a names opinion board, where can we state it?
Let's celebrate the fact that we are namenerds and we have ideas and sensibilities that the general public doesn't have, instead of decrying it.
First: Nobody would say that the parents don't have a right to name their children what they want. Pretty obviously, they named them what they wanted to and what they thought best, and everyone knows that very likely they would still prefer these names to whatever we choose. But everyone here has a right to an opinion on the names, and that's all anyone would be doing--stating an opinion. It's very common for people here to make a post about a name given to a real-life baby and ask for opinions. I've done it myself. Isn't that the point of a name opinions board? What's wrong with giving an opinion where the parents are very unlikely to see it anyway?
Also...I think these names are very boring--nothing *inherently* wrong with them, but overuse and popularity makes them boring. I always feel impatient by people who use overly popular names, because *in my opinion* it's a bad idea to use a name that does nothing to distinguish a child and will some day date him or her. I think that's all the OP meant to say, and that's her opinion and mine and we have a right to it, and if we can't state it here on a names opinion board, where can we state it?
Let's celebrate the fact that we are namenerds and we have ideas and sensibilities that the general public doesn't have, instead of decrying it.
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I think the problem is in the OP's statement:
If I had the opportunity and 9 months to think of names for triplets, I would do waayyy better than this I think.
It basically implies that the parents of these children didn't think their names out at all and did a half-assed job of naming, which is ridiculous to say just because you don't like their choices.
If I had the opportunity and 9 months to think of names for triplets, I would do waayyy better than this I think.
It basically implies that the parents of these children didn't think their names out at all and did a half-assed job of naming, which is ridiculous to say just because you don't like their choices.
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^This.(m)
I know it's probably an exaggeration of what the OP was thinking, but it sounded petty and nitpick-y to me.
I know it's probably an exaggeration of what the OP was thinking, but it sounded petty and nitpick-y to me.
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But I'm not saying that... :-(
Everything is being read into far too much....
Everything is being read into far too much....
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Perhaps I'm wrong, but I interpreted your words to mean, "I would avoid such popular names and would want to find something more offbeat and unusual" and I feel the same way. But the way it was worded, it could be construed the way Akua Topaz construed it, and so a misunderstanding resulted. Also, maybe some people feel that such an attitude is snobbish, and if they do, oh well, then I'm a snob when it comes to names, just as I am when it comes to Chef Boyardee, Bud Light beer, and reality TV. :-D
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LOL, I see what you mean. I guess I forget that everyone here doesn't know me personally and that they can easily misinterpret what I'm saying if I'm not super clear. That was my mistake, I guess!
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I guess my statement was meant to say that they had a long time and could have done something spectacular, but they chose the beaten path.
Which I am not mad at them for, I was just saying that any of us here may have done something different...
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I guess my statement was meant to say that they had a long time and could have done something spectacular, but they chose the beaten path.
Which I am not mad at them for, I was just saying that any of us here may have done something different...
This message was edited 12/18/2010, 2:14 PM
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No kidding. I love on here when people put in brackets what they'd prefer the parents did, as if the parents would care at all what some bored over-judgmental kid on the internet would think, as if parents who would name their kid Chloe might as well just have gone for Clotilde like it's even comparable. It's such a fantasy. These names are totally normal and fine.
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For some reason I want to chime in here. Humor me if I repeat myself. It's late and I'm on asprin.
I understand where you're coming from. Constant bashing of names and snobbery is annoying. But when it comes right down to it, I don't come on this site to talk about how parents have the right to choose any normal name they want. Obviously they do. When I come on this site, which is a name opinions site, I want to express my opinion. Sometimes that means saying that I think certain parents sucked at naming their children and stating what I would prefer. Not for a second do I assume the parents who named would care what I think. Good thing that I'm talking to a board of namenerds, most of whom have off the wall taste, and not the parents. In my mind, that's what this board is here for. That's what it does for me. It gives me a chance to live in a world where names like Agatha and Alfred and other generally hated names become beautiful. If I had to bow down to popularity and boredom why would I come here?
I think that it helps to look at it from the eyes of an average namer. If any average person heard me say that I wanted to name my son Alfred, they would think I was insane and that their naming taste was far superior to mine. If the average American saw my Alfred in a birth announcement, they'd probably say something rude about how I'm setting him up to be a joke. It's not just us. We have just as much right to express our minority opinion as they do to express their majority one.
I guess I just wanted to say that I think the people (and I'm including myself on this one) who tear BAs and sibsets apart and replace them with what they'd prefer have every right to do so, simply because this is a name opinions site. We're not talking to the parents and we're not interested in their opinions, just in the opinions of other namenerds, and I think very few of us carry the delusion that the names we like would go over well in real life. Taking away the chance to change things to what we'd prefer makes this site less fun. Being namenerds it makes it less ours if we can't go crazy just so we don't seem like we're snobs for going against the common. Well, that's how I feel.
I understand where you're coming from. Constant bashing of names and snobbery is annoying. But when it comes right down to it, I don't come on this site to talk about how parents have the right to choose any normal name they want. Obviously they do. When I come on this site, which is a name opinions site, I want to express my opinion. Sometimes that means saying that I think certain parents sucked at naming their children and stating what I would prefer. Not for a second do I assume the parents who named would care what I think. Good thing that I'm talking to a board of namenerds, most of whom have off the wall taste, and not the parents. In my mind, that's what this board is here for. That's what it does for me. It gives me a chance to live in a world where names like Agatha and Alfred and other generally hated names become beautiful. If I had to bow down to popularity and boredom why would I come here?
I think that it helps to look at it from the eyes of an average namer. If any average person heard me say that I wanted to name my son Alfred, they would think I was insane and that their naming taste was far superior to mine. If the average American saw my Alfred in a birth announcement, they'd probably say something rude about how I'm setting him up to be a joke. It's not just us. We have just as much right to express our minority opinion as they do to express their majority one.
I guess I just wanted to say that I think the people (and I'm including myself on this one) who tear BAs and sibsets apart and replace them with what they'd prefer have every right to do so, simply because this is a name opinions site. We're not talking to the parents and we're not interested in their opinions, just in the opinions of other namenerds, and I think very few of us carry the delusion that the names we like would go over well in real life. Taking away the chance to change things to what we'd prefer makes this site less fun. Being namenerds it makes it less ours if we can't go crazy just so we don't seem like we're snobs for going against the common. Well, that's how I feel.
This message was edited 12/18/2010, 8:46 PM
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I couldn't (and didn't) reply as well. Thank you. This reply made my day and expresses EXACTLY why I practically live on ths site!
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Agree
I wanted to say all this, but you put it so eloquently I'll just ditto your post:-)
I wanted to say all this, but you put it so eloquently I'll just ditto your post:-)
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Yep.
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It's my fantasy that people would rather go to the theater to see "Carmen" than watch "The Jerry Springer Show" on TV, and it's my fantasy that they'd rather read "Anna Karenina" than People magazine, and it's my fantasy that they'd rather go to the trouble to make penne ala vodka than open up a can of Chef Boyardee. Does that mean that I don't have a right to say so, or that my taste is "wrong" somehow?
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lol
I needed that, thanks. :)
I needed that, thanks. :)
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HUGE ditto.(m)
I see nothing wrong with these names, either. They may be plain to namenerds, but what is wrong with them? Personally, I'd rather be Chloe Ellen than, say, Minerva Elisabetta Liliana. JMO, so nobody shoot me, either.
I see nothing wrong with these names, either. They may be plain to namenerds, but what is wrong with them? Personally, I'd rather be Chloe Ellen than, say, Minerva Elisabetta Liliana. JMO, so nobody shoot me, either.
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Well said, and ditto.
Though I'm not fond of those three names [mainly due to personal experiences, and the fact that I prefer Avery on a boy], there's nothing desperately wrong with them. It's all down to personal taste, isn't it?
Though I'm not fond of those three names [mainly due to personal experiences, and the fact that I prefer Avery on a boy], there's nothing desperately wrong with them. It's all down to personal taste, isn't it?
This message was edited 12/18/2010, 11:12 AM
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