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Hmm what about "clarity" or "carriage" nt
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Agreed, also Clarence isn't CLAR-ence...It's CLAIRE-ence. Clare is a shortened version of Clarence, so it makes sense to pronounce it like Claire. Clara is just Clare with an -uh at the end.
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It is for me.People around here find it irritating otherwise, just ask my friend Kara. KAIR-a bothers her to no end.
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actually..I pronounce it Clah-rence, and so does everyone I know. Never heard of it said Claire-ence before.
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Its Claire-ence everywhere here in America that I have lived (midwest, west coast, north) and even when I was living in Germany I heard people say it Clair-ence.
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Not in Britain(m)It's CLA-rence with a short 'a' at the beginning. And I think Clarence comes from Clare not the other way round.Clara is CLAR-a in Britain (Clar rhymes with star). I only realised Americans said Claire-a when I noticed a lot of people on this board debating Claire and Clara as if they sounded the same with an 'a' on the end of Clara.
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You're right, but here it is...I was explaining why I think it's normal for Americans to say it Claire-a.
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I'm American, and I don't say Clara Claire-a. I say Claire with the vowel sounding like the vowel in stair, and I say Clara with the first vowel sounding like the vowel in hat. Clara isn't Claire with an A on the end of it, for me. On the other hand, the vowel is nothing like the vowel in star, for me, either.
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The vowel in hat and the vowel in stair sound the exact same to me...well Hat sounds a bit more nasally, but the same sound.
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okay....its funny how you think Hat and Stair have the same sound..Hat is a short A sound. Stair barely even notices the a.but then again.. in the US they tend to say AIR as AYER and elongate the a.. so I guess it makes sense.
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Where are you getting all this information about Americans from? I thought you were Australian? You are speaking about us as if you know us really well, except that what you say isn't true...at least not in my experience (and I am American). Saying AIR as AYER is something only maybe someone from the south would do or John Wayne. It is definately not something that should be generalized about all Americans (or even a great portion for that matter).

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it was a joke..taken from the song AYER that is out on the radio lately.
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wow...um I'm glad I can amuse you? I don't think it's really that funny, everyone's accents are different.
And yes, I also say Air as AYER.
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The perils of trying to discuss pronunciation in print! It gets so complicated!To me, stair and Claire rhyme with Eyre, as in "Jane Eyre." The first syllable of Clara rhymes with what a baby would say: "Waaah!"
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ActuallyI pronounce Clarence as CLAR-ence. I live in Australia.
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Yeah I meant in America...
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Ditto
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Good point!Clara came from Clare which came from Clarence which came from Clarus. So, Clara is Claire-uh.
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Its stupid.Clare shouldn't be pronounced the same as Claire either. I'm talking logically here. I know it IS, even I say these the same. but at should be said rhyming with are. oh the technicalities..... I love how we are debating this and its totally OT
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Haha, yes, we are totally OT but sometimes that is allowed. :)Clare could be pronounced as rhyming with the word are, but it isn't pronounced that way. Like I mentioned earlier the English language has funky rules and half the time it doesn't follow them.
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exactly.this is the only point I was ever trying to make.
talk about starting a debate......Clare SHOULD be rhyming with star and are in the english language.The air sound makes no sense, just like in Mary and Sarah.
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Yeah that's what I was trying to get at.
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