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HelpOMG! The raddest twins EVER!
Okay, I'm so excited! I just got off the phone w/my best friend, Mel, who is expecting to give birth to her first children, twins -- boy and girl -- in September. She has been battling with names forever, and she just called me and said it is official and final -- their names are (drum roll please):
Beowulf Xavier (m)
and
Lux Amadeus (f)
Wow!
She said, "My children will have no choice but to be extraordinary. Their names will demand it."
She said she would order Beowulf ("Wulfie" for short) a little custom-made onesie that says, "I've come to kill your monsta." (Said like Ray Winstone in the awesome Beowulf movie.)
Mel has long studied and been fascinated by the Beowulf legend -- by myth and legend in general, from Gilgamesh to the X-Men (hence the Xavier)-- and she is one hell of a unique individual, so I'm not surprised she made bold choices for her kids. Knowing their parents, I'm sure Beowulf and Lux will snuggle right into their unorthodox names.
M.
Beowulf Xavier (m)
and
Lux Amadeus (f)
Wow!
She said, "My children will have no choice but to be extraordinary. Their names will demand it."
She said she would order Beowulf ("Wulfie" for short) a little custom-made onesie that says, "I've come to kill your monsta." (Said like Ray Winstone in the awesome Beowulf movie.)
Mel has long studied and been fascinated by the Beowulf legend -- by myth and legend in general, from Gilgamesh to the X-Men (hence the Xavier)-- and she is one hell of a unique individual, so I'm not surprised she made bold choices for her kids. Knowing their parents, I'm sure Beowulf and Lux will snuggle right into their unorthodox names.
M.
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Uh... I like the name Mel...
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Ummmmm, right. Not seeing the "rad-ness" of this set.
I only like Xavier and Lux and think that they would sound so much nicer together. Beowulf is just a bit ridiculous imo, sorry. Amadeus has a lovely meaning, but it's a male name, not a female name. So again, not seeing the "rad-ness" of this set at all.
I only like Xavier and Lux and think that they would sound so much nicer together. Beowulf is just a bit ridiculous imo, sorry. Amadeus has a lovely meaning, but it's a male name, not a female name. So again, not seeing the "rad-ness" of this set at all.
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Those are certainly bold choices.
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X's response
While completely over the top says it all for me:
I'm completely in favor of forced sterilization at this point.
Again, kids need to live with their names. I went to school with kids with all sorts of names - from Bahar to Umhara. None struck me as weird except Wolfgang. On top of his name the kid had quite the weight issue and was tormented.
I don't mind Lux, honestly. It's a decent name, not something I'd use. But Lux Amadeus? Beowulf Xavier? No. Why not Xavier Beowulf and Lux Amadea or Amadea Lux?
There is only so far that a parent should force their beliefs on their children. And expecting your child to be extraordinary because of their names? Hmm. My mom named me Haven and instead of being calm and serene I had the temperament of the Tasmanian devil.
While completely over the top says it all for me:
I'm completely in favor of forced sterilization at this point.
Again, kids need to live with their names. I went to school with kids with all sorts of names - from Bahar to Umhara. None struck me as weird except Wolfgang. On top of his name the kid had quite the weight issue and was tormented.
I don't mind Lux, honestly. It's a decent name, not something I'd use. But Lux Amadeus? Beowulf Xavier? No. Why not Xavier Beowulf and Lux Amadea or Amadea Lux?
There is only so far that a parent should force their beliefs on their children. And expecting your child to be extraordinary because of their names? Hmm. My mom named me Haven and instead of being calm and serene I had the temperament of the Tasmanian devil.
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Forced sterilization? I'm afraid your response is faaar too personal. This is my best friend you're talking about here. I'm not going to start a war, I'm just going to ask politely that you avoid personal attacks. Disliking the names is one thing, this is another entirely.
M.
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I LOVE it, but I have one concern.
That's definitely exciting. I like all four names, and I'm glad she picked them for the right reasons. My main problem is using Beowulf as a fn. I have nothing against her choice of it, but it will stick out undoubtably and although she likes it, her son may regret it later on. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for using literary names- this is coming from the person who wants to name her daughters Arwen, Idril, and Luthien.
She could amend it to:
Xavier Beowulf
Lux Amadeus, or
Xavier Beowulf
Lux Amedea- Amadeus on a girl doesn't faze me terribly as a Mozart fanatic, but it doesn't hurt to consider alternatives. Lux is perfect, by the way.
Even if she can't bear to change it, the set is amazing. I'm so glad they won't be Aiden and McKenzie or anything in that style!
That's definitely exciting. I like all four names, and I'm glad she picked them for the right reasons. My main problem is using Beowulf as a fn. I have nothing against her choice of it, but it will stick out undoubtably and although she likes it, her son may regret it later on. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for using literary names- this is coming from the person who wants to name her daughters Arwen, Idril, and Luthien.
She could amend it to:
Xavier Beowulf
Lux Amadeus, or
Xavier Beowulf
Lux Amedea- Amadeus on a girl doesn't faze me terribly as a Mozart fanatic, but it doesn't hurt to consider alternatives. Lux is perfect, by the way.
Even if she can't bear to change it, the set is amazing. I'm so glad they won't be Aiden and McKenzie or anything in that style!
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I think she's pretty much set on what she's picked and I'm personally glad. I'm also glad they won't be Aiden and McKenzie. You wouldn't believe the amount of people who are horrified by these names and making personal attacks ("I feel sorry for the kids," etc.).
Btw, I love Arwen, Idril and Luthien! Big fan of Tolkien names!
M.
Btw, I love Arwen, Idril and Luthien! Big fan of Tolkien names!
M.
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It would be cool if Lux Amadeus were a boy.
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Because it's still a boy's name? A really stropy manly name? Which is made even worse by the fact that her fn is unisex?
I read this at, what, 3 in the morning so I didn't notice the (f) and thought Lux Amedeus was a guy. It's a really masculine name.
I read this at, what, 3 in the morning so I didn't notice the (f) and thought Lux Amedeus was a guy. It's a really masculine name.
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They'd be great if they were both boys. :/
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To be blunt...those are horrible, horrible names. I feel sorry for the children.
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That's grand! However, I consider Amadeus completely masculine.
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Those are rather cumbersome names, esp. Beowulf. But at least she picked it because she has a genuine interest in it, and not "because it's kwt". Lux is pretty enough, but Amadeus is totally unacceptable for a girl in my book.
But of course, always better than Dora and Nora or Payton and Paxton.
But of course, always better than Dora and Nora or Payton and Paxton.
This message was edited 6/5/2008, 4:50 AM
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I'm torn . . .
The names are, I have to confess, awesome, with the exception of Amadeus, which does not belong on a girl. (Amadea would be amazing.) Really, I'd be thrilled to meet a baby Beowulf or Lux.
That said, the comment you relayed unsettles me a little bit. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it does seem to imply an attitude of "My children will be extraordinary whether they like it or not!"
Names are one of the few things where the parents do get to decree absolutely what the kid gets, at least initially. That power doesn't and shouldn't extend to defining what the childrens' personalities will be. It's entirely plausible that an unorthodox upbringing will produce unorthodox kids, but I would hope that if baby Beowulf and Lux do decide that they're not cut out to lead extraordinary lives - and, let's face it, most of us aren't - then their decision would be respected.
But enough with the hypotheticals. As I said, good names, though I'm still not entirely happy about Amadeus.
The names are, I have to confess, awesome, with the exception of Amadeus, which does not belong on a girl. (Amadea would be amazing.) Really, I'd be thrilled to meet a baby Beowulf or Lux.
That said, the comment you relayed unsettles me a little bit. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it does seem to imply an attitude of "My children will be extraordinary whether they like it or not!"
Names are one of the few things where the parents do get to decree absolutely what the kid gets, at least initially. That power doesn't and shouldn't extend to defining what the childrens' personalities will be. It's entirely plausible that an unorthodox upbringing will produce unorthodox kids, but I would hope that if baby Beowulf and Lux do decide that they're not cut out to lead extraordinary lives - and, let's face it, most of us aren't - then their decision would be respected.
But enough with the hypotheticals. As I said, good names, though I'm still not entirely happy about Amadeus.
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"My children will have no choice but to be extraordinary. Their names will demand it."
Poor kids. Heavens forbid that they just want to be normal and fit in.
I like Xavier, but Beowulf is completely over the top, and Amadeus is masculine and doesn't belong on a girl. I don't like Lux, it's a soap brand to me.
"My children will have no choice but to be extraordinary. Their names will demand it."
Poor kids. Heavens forbid that they just want to be normal and fit in.
I like Xavier, but Beowulf is completely over the top, and Amadeus is masculine and doesn't belong on a girl. I don't like Lux, it's a soap brand to me.
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1. There are plenty of names you can give a child that aren't in the top few hundreds and still aren't as ludicrous as Beowulf.
2. If a child is going to stand out and be extraordinary, he or she will do so regardless of their name. The most outstanding children in my class (I'm a teacher) are named Toby, William, Zoe, Shelby and Holly - all Top 100 names.
I do feel sorry for children whose parents place ridiculous assumptions and expectations on their children, and particularly when they base those assumptions solely on the name they've bestowed on the child. It's unfair on the child and immature of the parent to do so. Names are just labels. They don't create character.
This is an opinions board. You are going to get negative opinions, particularly if you hyperactively champion over-the-top names. If you can't take the heat . . . etc.
2. If a child is going to stand out and be extraordinary, he or she will do so regardless of their name. The most outstanding children in my class (I'm a teacher) are named Toby, William, Zoe, Shelby and Holly - all Top 100 names.
I do feel sorry for children whose parents place ridiculous assumptions and expectations on their children, and particularly when they base those assumptions solely on the name they've bestowed on the child. It's unfair on the child and immature of the parent to do so. Names are just labels. They don't create character.
This is an opinions board. You are going to get negative opinions, particularly if you hyperactively champion over-the-top names. If you can't take the heat . . . etc.
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I am fine with you expressing negative opinions about names. I am not fine with you -- or anyone -- making personal attacks on my best friend. End of discussion. I'm not going to have an endless debate with you.
M.
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I agree, too.
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I was gonna say, oh pshaw, I bet she'll love 'em when they turn out to be mere humans anyway. Hehe. I hope she gives them other choices about what they are, though.
If I met a man named Beowulf I'd figure, I know about his mother's pride in how "literary" she is. I don't think it's too awful, but it's not "extraordinary" so much as it is geeky. If I met a woman named Lux I'd think of "deluxe" (vaguely pornstarry) and probably figure her parents are young and into rockabilly. Or that it's a pseud. And there's the unfortunate soundalikes. Amadeus is just plain the incorrect gender *sigh*.
I was gonna say, oh pshaw, I bet she'll love 'em when they turn out to be mere humans anyway. Hehe. I hope she gives them other choices about what they are, though.
If I met a man named Beowulf I'd figure, I know about his mother's pride in how "literary" she is. I don't think it's too awful, but it's not "extraordinary" so much as it is geeky. If I met a woman named Lux I'd think of "deluxe" (vaguely pornstarry) and probably figure her parents are young and into rockabilly. Or that it's a pseud. And there's the unfortunate soundalikes. Amadeus is just plain the incorrect gender *sigh*.
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It is an unfounded assumption that they will have a "jumpstart on awesomeness" because of their names, and a poor reason for giving such names to begin with.
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I must agree.
I don't mind parents who choose bold names for their children, even names that I wouldn't ordinarily like, but to try and correlate names with childrens' awesomeness is assuming and...kind of lame.
A name can certainly be awesome, but I don't think it gives an individual extraordinary characteristics. Little Kaitlyns, Brandons, Madisons, and Jacobs can certainly be awesome, as well. I don't think those names (meaning the aforementioned names) are all that earth-shattering (my own opinion), but their names aren't going to decide what kind of little people they're going to be inside and out.
I know of people who name their children after literary heroes, composers, authors, presidents, etc., in hopes their child would take on some of the qualities said hero possessed that made the parent want to name their child after him/her in the first place. But in naming a child Albert Einstein, for example, I don't think the parents thought the child would really grow up to be as brilliant as the namesake. (Though, it would be great if he/she did!)
I will concede that names can be inspirational to children, but they don't guarantee a life of awesomeness.
I also don't think the comments here were that nasty. If you want nasty, go over to BNaBBT and post the names and ask for opinions. They're not shy at all.
I don't mind parents who choose bold names for their children, even names that I wouldn't ordinarily like, but to try and correlate names with childrens' awesomeness is assuming and...kind of lame.
A name can certainly be awesome, but I don't think it gives an individual extraordinary characteristics. Little Kaitlyns, Brandons, Madisons, and Jacobs can certainly be awesome, as well. I don't think those names (meaning the aforementioned names) are all that earth-shattering (my own opinion), but their names aren't going to decide what kind of little people they're going to be inside and out.
I know of people who name their children after literary heroes, composers, authors, presidents, etc., in hopes their child would take on some of the qualities said hero possessed that made the parent want to name their child after him/her in the first place. But in naming a child Albert Einstein, for example, I don't think the parents thought the child would really grow up to be as brilliant as the namesake. (Though, it would be great if he/she did!)
I will concede that names can be inspirational to children, but they don't guarantee a life of awesomeness.
I also don't think the comments here were that nasty. If you want nasty, go over to BNaBBT and post the names and ask for opinions. They're not shy at all.
This message was edited 6/6/2008, 7:09 AM
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Can't say I'm a big fan of the names...but I am glad they have meaning and aren't just random :)
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Awesome! What does she plan to call Lux? Luxie? Lucy? Wulfie is a very cute idea. :)
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