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Do you think it'd be cruel to name a kid.. well... any of the following?
Ruby Tuesday - (after the song NOT the restaurant, I live in the UK so that part isn't really an issue)
Clark Kent
Lois Lane
Robin Tunney
Albus Severus
Sirius (mn)
Draco Christian
Constantine (mn)
River Phoenix
Chandler (mn)
Richey James
Ponyboy
Sodapop
Anakin (mn)
Marlon (mn)
Silvester (mn)
Amadeus (as a mn)
Cash (prolly just as a mn)
Gerard (mn)
Chad (mn)
Buddy Holly
Jovi
Most of these are cause I like the names, not necessarily a fan of all of them.... are there any that would actually be ok? And, where I can't think of one, do any middle names come to mind?
Also, can you think of any other good ones?
thanks
Ruby Tuesday - (after the song NOT the restaurant, I live in the UK so that part isn't really an issue)
Clark Kent
Lois Lane
Robin Tunney
Albus Severus
Sirius (mn)
Draco Christian
Constantine (mn)
River Phoenix
Chandler (mn)
Richey James
Ponyboy
Sodapop
Anakin (mn)
Marlon (mn)
Silvester (mn)
Amadeus (as a mn)
Cash (prolly just as a mn)
Gerard (mn)
Chad (mn)
Buddy Holly
Jovi
Most of these are cause I like the names, not necessarily a fan of all of them.... are there any that would actually be ok? And, where I can't think of one, do any middle names come to mind?
Also, can you think of any other good ones?
thanks
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I wrote a rant in response to Albus Severus that I think addresses all the fan names, so I'll just put it at the beginning...
Albus Severus - YES. On two levels: one, it was cruel for Harry to name his child this, and he had an excuse. This is an awful name which would envoke teasing irrelvant of the books. Second, and more importantly, the amount of fanboyishness is too, too much. The child would be forever tied to Harry Potter.
This is my personal rule with fan/honouring names: it doesn't matter what person is being referenced, whether it's high brow or not. (I fell for Margery because of a comedy sketch and love Martha and Abigail because of a very silly musical about the signing of the declaration, I'm not proud.) What matters is whether every person who meets the kid will think of that one person/book, etc, irrelevant of whether this association is positive, negative or neutral. Adolf is not okay, but neither is Lincoln.
A child is not a banner to advertise their parents' interests- by this I don't mean one should never reference those interests or heros, but only that the child shouldn't be tied to them. If I decided to honour heros and named my kids, say, Katherine, Linnet, Gwendolen, Cora and Thomas (only a few of my many reference names), they wouldn't have that problem. If I named them Shakespeare, Sweeney, Wilde, Sondheim and Rosencrantz, they would. (They would also all have last names...) Am I making sense, or am I rambling and likely starting an argument? I hope I don't offend anyone who likes hero names because I like and have many hero names...just, not ones like Albus Severus likely to make a kid miserable.
My thoughts on the others:
Sirius (mn) - Fine as a middle name.
Draco Christian - A little too overdramatic, a little too tied to HP. Christian Draco would be okay in the HP respect, but still overdramatic.
Constantine (mn) - Fine as a middle name.
Chandler (mn) - Plenty of people seem fine with it as a first name. I think it could stand a short sharp shock from a cheap and chippy chopper on a big black block, but I wouldn't call it cruel, just an unweildy and annoying surname.
Richey James
Ponyboy - Yes. In a word, yes.
Sodapop - Yes.
Amadeus (as a mn) - I like it as a MN.
Cash (prolly just as a mn) - Yeah. Don't name your child after money.
Gerard (mn) - I don't like it particularly, but I'm confused about what would make it cruel.
Albus Severus - YES. On two levels: one, it was cruel for Harry to name his child this, and he had an excuse. This is an awful name which would envoke teasing irrelvant of the books. Second, and more importantly, the amount of fanboyishness is too, too much. The child would be forever tied to Harry Potter.
This is my personal rule with fan/honouring names: it doesn't matter what person is being referenced, whether it's high brow or not. (I fell for Margery because of a comedy sketch and love Martha and Abigail because of a very silly musical about the signing of the declaration, I'm not proud.) What matters is whether every person who meets the kid will think of that one person/book, etc, irrelevant of whether this association is positive, negative or neutral. Adolf is not okay, but neither is Lincoln.
A child is not a banner to advertise their parents' interests- by this I don't mean one should never reference those interests or heros, but only that the child shouldn't be tied to them. If I decided to honour heros and named my kids, say, Katherine, Linnet, Gwendolen, Cora and Thomas (only a few of my many reference names), they wouldn't have that problem. If I named them Shakespeare, Sweeney, Wilde, Sondheim and Rosencrantz, they would. (They would also all have last names...) Am I making sense, or am I rambling and likely starting an argument? I hope I don't offend anyone who likes hero names because I like and have many hero names...just, not ones like Albus Severus likely to make a kid miserable.
My thoughts on the others:
Sirius (mn) - Fine as a middle name.
Draco Christian - A little too overdramatic, a little too tied to HP. Christian Draco would be okay in the HP respect, but still overdramatic.
Constantine (mn) - Fine as a middle name.
Chandler (mn) - Plenty of people seem fine with it as a first name. I think it could stand a short sharp shock from a cheap and chippy chopper on a big black block, but I wouldn't call it cruel, just an unweildy and annoying surname.
Richey James
Ponyboy - Yes. In a word, yes.
Sodapop - Yes.
Amadeus (as a mn) - I like it as a MN.
Cash (prolly just as a mn) - Yeah. Don't name your child after money.
Gerard (mn) - I don't like it particularly, but I'm confused about what would make it cruel.
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Ruby Tuesday- I personally wouldn't use this, but it's not totally cruel.
Clark Kent- Kenneth Clark would be okay, but Clark Kent sound ugly, not to mention very Superman.
Lois Lane- basically same as above
Robin Tunney- don't know who this is. I like Robin, Tunney not so much.
Albus Severus- I'm sorry, but this is just rather stupid
Sirius (mn)- fine as a mn
Draco Christian- ironic is what comes to find.
Constantine (mn)- perfectly acceptable
River Phoenix- tactless
Chandler (mn)- Love this name!
Richey James- dislike both names
Ponyboy- unless your Native American it would be akward.
Sodapop- incredibly cruel!
Anakin (mn)- fine as a mn
Marlon (mn)- nothing wrong with this name.
Silvester (mn)- not a fan, but okay as a mn.
Amadeus (as a mn)- fine
Cash (prolly just as a mn)- okay as a mn only
Gerard (mn)- dislike it, but it's usable
Chad (mn)- saa
Buddy Holly- Buddy is okay as a nn for a boy and Holly is fine on a girl, but together it's just weird.
Jovi- okay as a nn or maybe a mn.
Clark Kent- Kenneth Clark would be okay, but Clark Kent sound ugly, not to mention very Superman.
Lois Lane- basically same as above
Robin Tunney- don't know who this is. I like Robin, Tunney not so much.
Albus Severus- I'm sorry, but this is just rather stupid
Sirius (mn)- fine as a mn
Draco Christian- ironic is what comes to find.
Constantine (mn)- perfectly acceptable
River Phoenix- tactless
Chandler (mn)- Love this name!
Richey James- dislike both names
Ponyboy- unless your Native American it would be akward.
Sodapop- incredibly cruel!
Anakin (mn)- fine as a mn
Marlon (mn)- nothing wrong with this name.
Silvester (mn)- not a fan, but okay as a mn.
Amadeus (as a mn)- fine
Cash (prolly just as a mn)- okay as a mn only
Gerard (mn)- dislike it, but it's usable
Chad (mn)- saa
Buddy Holly- Buddy is okay as a nn for a boy and Holly is fine on a girl, but together it's just weird.
Jovi- okay as a nn or maybe a mn.
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Ponyboy and Sodapop would be cruel.
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Ditto, people won't care if they're from a book.
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Do you think it'd be cruel to name a kid.. well... any of the following?
Ruby Tuesday no. Personally I'm not familiar neither with the song nor the restaurant
Clark Kent not "cruel" maybe but silly. The kind of name a comic-obsessed teen would pick
Lois Lane see above
Robin Tunney not familiar with the reference. Tunney is ugly
Albus Severus see Clark Kent
Sirius (mn) possibly ok as a middle name
Draco Christian Draco is off-limits until the Harry Potter craze dies out. with Christian it's a bit odd
Constantine (mn) perfectly fine. Don't see what bugs you about it, is it the -ine ending that may look feminine?
River Phoenix why would you want to name a child after someone so ill-fated?
Chandler (mn) ok as a middle name
Richey James don't get the reference, but Richey won't age well at all
Ponyboy this name is not fit for a human being. Yes, I'd say it's cruel. Imagine someone going to a job interview, and introducing himself as Ponyboy Smith
Sodapop see Ponyboy
Anakin (mn) bearable as a middle name, albeit nerdy
Marlon (mn) fine as middle name
Silvester (mn)ditto (ok also as fn)
Amadeus (as a mn) tritto (ok also as fn, possibly)
Cash (prolly just as a mn) ok as a middle name, though it reminds me of cash as in money
Gerard (mn) perfectly fine name. Don't see why it could be considered cruel
Chad (mn) see above
Buddy Holly don't get the reference, but looks silly
Jovi looks nicknamey and the sort of name a teeny-bopper would pick
Ruby Tuesday no. Personally I'm not familiar neither with the song nor the restaurant
Clark Kent not "cruel" maybe but silly. The kind of name a comic-obsessed teen would pick
Lois Lane see above
Robin Tunney not familiar with the reference. Tunney is ugly
Albus Severus see Clark Kent
Sirius (mn) possibly ok as a middle name
Draco Christian Draco is off-limits until the Harry Potter craze dies out. with Christian it's a bit odd
Constantine (mn) perfectly fine. Don't see what bugs you about it, is it the -ine ending that may look feminine?
River Phoenix why would you want to name a child after someone so ill-fated?
Chandler (mn) ok as a middle name
Richey James don't get the reference, but Richey won't age well at all
Ponyboy this name is not fit for a human being. Yes, I'd say it's cruel. Imagine someone going to a job interview, and introducing himself as Ponyboy Smith
Sodapop see Ponyboy
Anakin (mn) bearable as a middle name, albeit nerdy
Marlon (mn) fine as middle name
Silvester (mn)ditto (ok also as fn)
Amadeus (as a mn) tritto (ok also as fn, possibly)
Cash (prolly just as a mn) ok as a middle name, though it reminds me of cash as in money
Gerard (mn) perfectly fine name. Don't see why it could be considered cruel
Chad (mn) see above
Buddy Holly don't get the reference, but looks silly
Jovi looks nicknamey and the sort of name a teeny-bopper would pick
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Ruby Tuesday - just really dislike both "names"
Chandler - I see no major problems with this, especially as a mn, any of the mns would be fine because they are in the mn position
Ponyboy, Sodapop - I love The Outsiders, but always thought the names were kind of stupid, no offence
Cash - really not a fan of word names, or surnames as first/middle names, unless its a family name (and only in the mn position)
Chad - I went to school with more than a handful of boys named Chad. This is completely acceptable in my book
Chandler - I see no major problems with this, especially as a mn, any of the mns would be fine because they are in the mn position
Ponyboy, Sodapop - I love The Outsiders, but always thought the names were kind of stupid, no offence
Cash - really not a fan of word names, or surnames as first/middle names, unless its a family name (and only in the mn position)
Chad - I went to school with more than a handful of boys named Chad. This is completely acceptable in my book
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Ruby Tuesday - no
Clark Kent - not cruel
Lois Lane - no
Robin Tunney - no
Albus Severus - no, but I'd think it was kinda lame.
Sirius (mn) - not cruel but kinda lame
Draco Christian - no
Constantine (mn) - no
River Phoenix - no
Chandler (mn) - no
Richey James - mo
Ponyboy - Yes. This is cruel. Well, I don't phrase it that way myself, but I will put it in the "cruel" box since you asked.
Sodapop - not quite cruel, but I think it sure is annoying and kinda dumb; I'd change it if I were named that.
Anakin (mn) - not cruel
Marlon (mn) - no
Silvester (mn) - no
Amadeus (as a mn) - no
Cash (prolly just as a mn) - no
Gerard (mn) - no
Chad (mn) - no.
I know people named this, and I don't see how many of these names could possibly be seen as cruel
Buddy Holly - no
Jovi - not cruel, but lame.
Clark Kent - not cruel
Lois Lane - no
Robin Tunney - no
Albus Severus - no, but I'd think it was kinda lame.
Sirius (mn) - not cruel but kinda lame
Draco Christian - no
Constantine (mn) - no
River Phoenix - no
Chandler (mn) - no
Richey James - mo
Ponyboy - Yes. This is cruel. Well, I don't phrase it that way myself, but I will put it in the "cruel" box since you asked.
Sodapop - not quite cruel, but I think it sure is annoying and kinda dumb; I'd change it if I were named that.
Anakin (mn) - not cruel
Marlon (mn) - no
Silvester (mn) - no
Amadeus (as a mn) - no
Cash (prolly just as a mn) - no
Gerard (mn) - no
Chad (mn) - no.
I know people named this, and I don't see how many of these names could possibly be seen as cruel
Buddy Holly - no
Jovi - not cruel, but lame.
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I love Constantine and Amadeus! I think they would be great for fn or mn.
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Ruby Tuesday - don't know of the restaurant but I like the song *hums the song* No I don't think it would be cruel if you do it because you like the song.
Clark Kent - kind of cruel, mainly beacause it's an unattractive name
Lois Lane - can't stand the name so yes, cruel
Robin Tunney - I don't know about this person so I can't answer. Who is s/he?
Albus Severus - yes
Sirius (mn) - no, I like the name. Don't think it's too Harry Potter-ish like Albus Severus
Draco Christian - hate Draco, love Christian. Can't see the cruel part though
Constantine (mn)- not at all cruel, nice name
River Phoenix - yes, cruel and I don't know stupid and...weird. I think you should choose to either use River or Phoenix
Chandler (mn)- cruel because I really dislike the name
Richey James - don't know of this person
Ponyboy - LOL Yes, cruel, cruel, cruel
Sodapop - see above
Anakin (mn)- no, not cruel. At least it's not Chewbacca ;)
Marlon (mn)- Cruel? NO! I really like this name. I like the sound and look of it and Marlon Brando was a great actor.
Silvester (mn)- not cruel
Amadeus (as a mn) - no, it's such a sweet name. I think it would be a lovely middle name
Cash (prolly just as a mn)- ok as a middle name
Gerard (mn)- dislike but not cruel
Chad (mn)- gah! Ugly sounding name! Not cruel just bad taste ;)
Buddy Holly - A bit cruel
Jovi - If you're a Bon Jovi fan it's ok but if you're not don't use it. People will assume that the poor kid is named after him because his parents loved Bon Jovi not just because they liked the name.
Clark Kent - kind of cruel, mainly beacause it's an unattractive name
Lois Lane - can't stand the name so yes, cruel
Robin Tunney - I don't know about this person so I can't answer. Who is s/he?
Albus Severus - yes
Sirius (mn) - no, I like the name. Don't think it's too Harry Potter-ish like Albus Severus
Draco Christian - hate Draco, love Christian. Can't see the cruel part though
Constantine (mn)- not at all cruel, nice name
River Phoenix - yes, cruel and I don't know stupid and...weird. I think you should choose to either use River or Phoenix
Chandler (mn)- cruel because I really dislike the name
Richey James - don't know of this person
Ponyboy - LOL Yes, cruel, cruel, cruel
Sodapop - see above
Anakin (mn)- no, not cruel. At least it's not Chewbacca ;)
Marlon (mn)- Cruel? NO! I really like this name. I like the sound and look of it and Marlon Brando was a great actor.
Silvester (mn)- not cruel
Amadeus (as a mn) - no, it's such a sweet name. I think it would be a lovely middle name
Cash (prolly just as a mn)- ok as a middle name
Gerard (mn)- dislike but not cruel
Chad (mn)- gah! Ugly sounding name! Not cruel just bad taste ;)
Buddy Holly - A bit cruel
Jovi - If you're a Bon Jovi fan it's ok but if you're not don't use it. People will assume that the poor kid is named after him because his parents loved Bon Jovi not just because they liked the name.
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I don't think it'd be necessarily cruel, but it'd be pretty tasteless.
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fair enough.... they're not all on my list.... and not all the names on my list are famous ones like that. I just like some of them
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