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Karis is what my dad wanted to name my sister. (~Xaquis in Greek). I really love Carys, but not Karis. K names have a trashy feeling to them sometimes. (Kathleen, Katherine, Karen are legit; Kameron, Kacey, etc aren't)
Is the spelling a bit trashy? It would be a middle name with a cool story (I like those), but I was curious as to recommendations.
Carys is out, though: It's Welsh, not Greek, and has a completely different meaning. I don't like people altering names to honor someone. (Like someone coming up with a variation that honors six people with a name that isn't even that close.)
Is the spelling a bit trashy? It would be a middle name with a cool story (I like those), but I was curious as to recommendations.
Carys is out, though: It's Welsh, not Greek, and has a completely different meaning. I don't like people altering names to honor someone. (Like someone coming up with a variation that honors six people with a name that isn't even that close.)
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It doesn't look trashy to me.
Kayryss or Kairys might look cheesy, but Karis looks even more like "KAH-riss" to me than Carys (I think that's the correct pronunciation and I prefer it over KAIR-iss).
I think I even like Karis better than Carys. Even if it is pronounced KAIR-iss.
Kayryss or Kairys might look cheesy, but Karis looks even more like "KAH-riss" to me than Carys (I think that's the correct pronunciation and I prefer it over KAIR-iss).
I think I even like Karis better than Carys. Even if it is pronounced KAIR-iss.
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I don't think it's trashy or unusable. And as a middle name, I don't see why not.
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Trashy? No. Trendy-seeming? Yes. I have the same issue with K names. But with the meaning behind it and esp. since it would be a mn, I think it would be a great idea and the spelling really isn't a problem at all, imo.
ETA: Karis isn't even in the database, but Charis has the same meaning and I really like that spelling. Is it an option?
ETA: Karis isn't even in the database, but Charis has the same meaning and I really like that spelling. Is it an option?
This message was edited 3/31/2007, 8:29 PM
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Karis isn't trashy, read my first post:
http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=2846068&board=baby
http://www.behindthename.com/bb/arcview.php?id=2846068&board=baby
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I don't know as I'd call it trashy. To me a t4rashy k name would be like Kayeleighey or Kaydince or Karringtynn or Kyndall. I have to say I don't care for the name, either Carys or Karis, because it immediately makes me think of caries, or cavities. But it's not the worst you might do.
Although, if it's what your dad wanted to name your sister, it's kind of a stretch to say that using hte name is honoring your dad. Your sister *might* pull that off, but it seems like you'd be trying to hard to honor somebody and the name links you to your dad by only a rather thin thread.
Although, if it's what your dad wanted to name your sister, it's kind of a stretch to say that using hte name is honoring your dad. Your sister *might* pull that off, but it seems like you'd be trying to hard to honor somebody and the name links you to your dad by only a rather thin thread.
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No, he wants the name used.
His two favorite names - Joshua and Karis - were never used. He'd love it if I used them. Every time I mention them he gets excited. My first child would be Jonas Allan, after him directly, using Karis and Joshua would be a second way of honoring him.
His two favorite names - Joshua and Karis - were never used. He'd love it if I used them. Every time I mention them he gets excited. My first child would be Jonas Allan, after him directly, using Karis and Joshua would be a second way of honoring him.
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I just wanted to add that I think that is so nice :) Its such a different way of honouring someone. My Dad doesn't have any names that he has absolutely always loved or he would consider his favourite names. My Papa has always adored the name Lucy which is also the name of his grandmother and wanted to name all of his kids Lucy and then tried to make all his kids use it but Nana hated it and no one else wanted it. Perhaps I will use it as a mn...
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RoxStar, please tell me you do not know a little girl named "Kayeleighey"! That's so funny.
I don't think Karis is a trashy name, I just think that all "K" names that are deliberate mis-spellings of "C" names or are made-up compounds sound kind of dated, and hence have a slight trashy tinge to them. Kayla is no Kayleighey, but both sound kind of late-80s early-90s to me, because this is when the K craze was peaking. IMO.
Karis, while quite classical, is on the border of this because it's uncommon, and as an uncommon k name could appear to belong to the Kaylas when really it belongs to the Callas.
But these impressions vary from person to person - if you love a name, go for it!
I don't think Karis is a trashy name, I just think that all "K" names that are deliberate mis-spellings of "C" names or are made-up compounds sound kind of dated, and hence have a slight trashy tinge to them. Kayla is no Kayleighey, but both sound kind of late-80s early-90s to me, because this is when the K craze was peaking. IMO.
Karis, while quite classical, is on the border of this because it's uncommon, and as an uncommon k name could appear to belong to the Kaylas when really it belongs to the Callas.
But these impressions vary from person to person - if you love a name, go for it!
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I don't personally know a Kayelieghy...
Not yet. But I have run across every other conceivableand unconceivable spelling of that name and all the others I listed in the BA's. If I keep on reading them I am sure I'll find thoes misspellings too.
Not yet. But I have run across every other conceivableand unconceivable spelling of that name and all the others I listed in the BA's. If I keep on reading them I am sure I'll find thoes misspellings too.
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Virtually every K- name looks trashy and overly trendy to me, nevertheless, if Karis has special meaning to you, I would use it. I would definitely prefer it as a middle name, though.
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I think its nice as a mn. I know it isn't the traditional spelling, but as its a translation of a Greek name, surely it is as valid as Charis? I don't know, correct me if I am wrong.
I think it would be a great story to tell your child, a lovely way to honour your dad and it has a nice meaning. If you still felt uncomfortable with it, would Charis still honour? I prefer that spelling usually, but in this case, honouring and the story behind it makes me like Karis more.
I think it would be a great story to tell your child, a lovely way to honour your dad and it has a nice meaning. If you still felt uncomfortable with it, would Charis still honour? I prefer that spelling usually, but in this case, honouring and the story behind it makes me like Karis more.
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Karis is as valid as Charis. It is just a variant transliteration.
:-)
:-)
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That's what I thought
Thanks for confirming it! :)
Thanks for confirming it! :)
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I don't mind Karis, but it does look a bit like an alternatively-spelled Carys, or something of that nature. It's not trashy, IMO, but it does have a bit of that "Oh, it looks like such-and-such spelled differently" feel for me. Knowing that it's Greek of course clears that up, but still, that's my initial thought about it.
It does remind me, now that I think about it for a second, of kore (ETA that all they have in common is they're short words starting with K and they're Greek, but whatever; that's where the mind goes): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kore_%28sculpture%29 . I remember learning about those in Art History. :-)
Not necessarily a recommendation as a replacement but just throwing a name out there: I used to know a girl named Cherith, which I thought was interesting and quite pretty, in its own way. I had no idea where it came from but Wikipedia says this much: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherith
It does remind me, now that I think about it for a second, of kore (ETA that all they have in common is they're short words starting with K and they're Greek, but whatever; that's where the mind goes): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kore_%28sculpture%29 . I remember learning about those in Art History. :-)
Not necessarily a recommendation as a replacement but just throwing a name out there: I used to know a girl named Cherith, which I thought was interesting and quite pretty, in its own way. I had no idea where it came from but Wikipedia says this much: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherith
This message was edited 3/31/2007, 3:46 PM
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I love this board, BTW. Anyway I like how Karis sounds but not how it is spelled - Carys looks more interesting and classy. I know what you are saying about the trashy feeling of some "k" names. I think anything unusual with a "k" might suggest it is a madeup name in the line of "Kayden" and "Kayla" and other names that, now that they are losing popularity, seem a bit dated... even though Karis has a history. Does this make sense?
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I completely agree! That's just what I wanted to say.
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Yes, sorry. Karis is a bit trashy. Maybe you could use a different K name (although you may not see that as honoring your dad, but I think it's really the thought that counts).
If you really, really wanted to use it I could live with it as a middle name only.
If you really, really wanted to use it I could live with it as a middle name only.
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You could live with it?
Interesting, as it would be my child...
Interesting, as it would be my child...
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Honestly, I think you're out of line. Julia's comment was just ordinary. What's the point in taking offense at random? Either post names and live with people's opinions (it wasn't as if Julia hurled profanities at you) or don't post names, because it's subjecting them to scrutiny. "I could live with it" is a figure of speech, a well-known one that you yourself must know. As in, "I don't like it but I wouldn't lose sleep over it" :-/
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I think you're missing the point here
"I could live with it" means that it wouldn't make me cringe if I saw it but it's not my favorite name. It's not a literal expression.
"I could live with it" means that it wouldn't make me cringe if I saw it but it's not my favorite name. It's not a literal expression.
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Honestly?
I could live with it came off as incredibly self-centered.
I could live with it does not impy that what you meant - and honestly, the wording is incorrect for what you wanted it to mean.
Julia: There is a nice way to say things. I learned, so should you. Heinous, horrible, and trashy are used to describe almost all names that don't fit into your very narrow criteria.
Try saying: I don't like Tabitha at all, not sure why instead of demeaning as a name that you hate with a passion!
I could live with it came off as incredibly self-centered.
I could live with it does not impy that what you meant - and honestly, the wording is incorrect for what you wanted it to mean.
Julia: There is a nice way to say things. I learned, so should you. Heinous, horrible, and trashy are used to describe almost all names that don't fit into your very narrow criteria.
Try saying: I don't like Tabitha at all, not sure why instead of demeaning as a name that you hate with a passion!
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Well, that's certainly not how I intended it to come off--I'm sorry you took it that way.
I recall us having had this conversation many, many times before, so I won't continue it now. I also didn't like your patronizing tone very much.
I recall us having had this conversation many, many times before, so I won't continue it now. I also didn't like your patronizing tone very much.
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Ignore the typos/errors
I was in a hurry and am used to having spell check in my post.
I was in a hurry and am used to having spell check in my post.
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