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[Facts] the name Abby
I don't remember the place I found this. Okay, my name is Abby, NOT Abigail. Says so on my birth certificate and liscense.
Now, Abby does not mean "father's joy" or "source of joy" or any kind of joy for that matter.
Allow me to elaborate.
Abby/Abbie/Abbey
-I shudder at the name Abbey, makes me think of a building.
Abby is derived from Abigail
Abigail is derived from Avigayil, a hebrew name
Av i gayil
Av - father
i - "of"
gayil - joy
So, you see, Abby, obviously hailing from ABIgail, and AVIgayil, means "father of". It is the gail/gayil part that means joy.
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My name is Avigayil, and I've I see all the various nicknames as just that - nicknames. Basically if your mother named you simply Abby, it doesn't change the meaning. If you met someone named Jim or Frank, you wouldn't imagine that name having a different meaning than James or Francis. The same rule applies to girls. A nickname is always a nickname, in the meaning sense. At least that's what I believe, as a proud holder of the name.
If this helps any, my name used to be spelled the traditional way (Abigail) and I always went by Abi. But I never tried changing the meaning of Abi just because I absolutely never went by Abigail. I feel the same rule partially applies to you: Your real name is not Abigail, and I never saw it as mine either, which is part of the reason I made a few alterations. To help make your point, when I switched to Avigayil, I decided to go by Ava instead of Avi. Ava has its own separate meaning from Avigayil, and I tend to see it as just a dual-meaning. I don't think it's really a big deal.
But in all honesty, this is YOUR name, not society's. So while I feel the meanings are the same, you can interpret your own name however you want. =)
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Since the name Abby is derived from Abigail I would venture to say it does have the same meaning as Abigail, just like Jenny has the same meaning as Jennifer or Tim as Timothy.
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Unless its made up of two elementsLike Albert or Alden. Right?Siri
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I don't see what difference that makes.
Al means the same as Albert.
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You could argue that if someone gave Al as a whole name, it would simply mean "noble", from the Germanic adal. It's not the conventional way of looking at it but it *is* logical!
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By saying 'not the conventional way' you conceded my point.
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You're the one who thinks it's an argument . . .I just made a comment, I couldn't care less about "points".
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'Benefit of the doubt' doesn't appear in your dictionary, does it?
When I said 'you conceded my point', I meant to clarify that my point merely was that it is not 'conventional'. Do you blame me for wishing to clarify my position?
And I used the word 'point' in the sense of 'the essential or most important part of a discourse', not 'a unit of count in scoring in a game', as you seem to suggest.
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If you always behaved in a courteous and professional manner towards those whom you disagree with, I would cheerfully and willingly give you the "benefit of the doubt" as I do to all other members of this forum.As you are regularly brusque to the point of rudeness and are often downright insulting ("Gristle" being a case in point - charming, that) you have well and truly used up my supply of good-will towards you.If you want to be be treated nicely, quit being nasty. Simple as that.
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I agree too. :-)a
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Agreed
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