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Help[Facts] Lucilius and Lucille.
Hey!
I was wondering about something. The French have names like Camille and Cyrille, which sound rather feminine, but are often used for males. I discovered that there's also a Latin male variant of my name, which is Lucilius (he wrote letters to Seneca or something). Wouldn't it be logical if the French made Lucille as their variant of Lucilius, and used it for boys as well? I mean, if names like Camille en Cyrille are used for males, why can't Lucille?
I was wondering if there exist any records of Lucille being used as a male name, at least in France? Did any of you ever hear of that?
Thank you,
Lucille
I was wondering about something. The French have names like Camille and Cyrille, which sound rather feminine, but are often used for males. I discovered that there's also a Latin male variant of my name, which is Lucilius (he wrote letters to Seneca or something). Wouldn't it be logical if the French made Lucille as their variant of Lucilius, and used it for boys as well? I mean, if names like Camille en Cyrille are used for males, why can't Lucille?
I was wondering if there exist any records of Lucille being used as a male name, at least in France? Did any of you ever hear of that?
Thank you,
Lucille
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I see your logic, but I think Lucille is very much a feminine name. The male form would be Lucien. I believe Camille began as a feminine name and Cyril as a masculine name. Maybe Lucille just never caught on as a cross gender name. Like how we use Taylor for both, but you rarely meet a girl named David.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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Yes, you could indeed be right. :)
But I think Lucien doesn't really resemble Lucille as a masculine form, it's closer to Lucius or Lucianus. Thus it doesn't feel right to me as a masculine form.
Some searching on the Internet learned me that there's Lucilian (also spelled as Lucillian) as a name, which would be a much better masculine form for Lucille than Lucien. And apart from Lucilius, Lucillus and Lucilian, I also found Lucilianus. If you see all these various forms, it's a bit odd that they're hardly known and that the French (probably?) never thought of using Lucille as a masculine name as well.
Hmmm...
But I think Lucien doesn't really resemble Lucille as a masculine form, it's closer to Lucius or Lucianus. Thus it doesn't feel right to me as a masculine form.
Some searching on the Internet learned me that there's Lucilian (also spelled as Lucillian) as a name, which would be a much better masculine form for Lucille than Lucien. And apart from Lucilius, Lucillus and Lucilian, I also found Lucilianus. If you see all these various forms, it's a bit odd that they're hardly known and that the French (probably?) never thought of using Lucille as a masculine name as well.
Hmmm...
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Another thing....
I just discovered the French also use Lucilien. See this site and go to Lucilien:
http://www.e-prenoms.com/l/lu_b.htm
I think all the names that originated from Lucilla or Lucilius should be researched better. Ofcourse I know Lucilla and Lucilius both come from Lucius, but more in-depth information about these names and the names that were derived from them would be welcome.
I just discovered the French also use Lucilien. See this site and go to Lucilien:
http://www.e-prenoms.com/l/lu_b.htm
I think all the names that originated from Lucilla or Lucilius should be researched better. Ofcourse I know Lucilla and Lucilius both come from Lucius, but more in-depth information about these names and the names that were derived from them would be welcome.
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