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Help[Facts] disagree with people who say name means pig or ugly
hi
my name is Portia you better shut your mouth if you do not know what
"Portia" means. this name means Leader & Offering, not pig and it is
NOT UGLY.
my name is Portia you better shut your mouth if you do not know what
"Portia" means. this name means Leader & Offering, not pig and it is
NOT UGLY.
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Several people on here have suggested alternative meanings to the name Portia including possible derivations from the Latin porta meaning "gate," "door" or "passage," or from Latin portio meaning "share, part, portion."
Portia is a lovely name. Portia in "The Merchant of Venice" was clever, knowledgeable, loyal, and one of the strongest women in Shakespeare's works. It is certainly not a name to feel ashamed of.
Portia is a lovely name. Portia in "The Merchant of Venice" was clever, knowledgeable, loyal, and one of the strongest women in Shakespeare's works. It is certainly not a name to feel ashamed of.
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I wasn't even aware that people referred to Portia as a pig. All I know is that its a brand of car and quiet honestly, I'm not crazy for it
I don't think Portia is ugly or means pig. It reminds me of the type if car way too much so I don't particularly car for it
I don't think Portia is ugly or means pig. It reminds me of the type if car way too much so I don't particularly car for it
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PORSCHE [the car name] is a surname.
A similar-sounding surname, PORCHER, means "swineherd." http://surnames.behindthename.com/name/porcher
A similar-sounding surname, PORCHER, means "swineherd." http://surnames.behindthename.com/name/porcher
This message was edited 10/4/2014, 3:43 PM
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Pig isn't a bad or ugly meaning, because not every culture views pigs in a negative light. I know there are many cultures (such as most Middle Eastern cultures) that regard pigs with contempt, but there are plenty of others that view pigs favorably.
This message was edited 9/21/2014, 4:41 PM
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Portia
You should not be rude to strangers.
This is a board for the discussion of facts about names. If you have facts to support your 'Leader & Offering' meaning, we'd be interested to see them. In fact, it would be interesting to know how Portia can mean both 'Leader' and 'Offering'.
So, reference please. And remember that your personal, emotional response to something is not a fact about the thing but about you. As such, it is out of place on this board.
You should not be rude to strangers.
This is a board for the discussion of facts about names. If you have facts to support your 'Leader & Offering' meaning, we'd be interested to see them. In fact, it would be interesting to know how Portia can mean both 'Leader' and 'Offering'.
So, reference please. And remember that your personal, emotional response to something is not a fact about the thing but about you. As such, it is out of place on this board.
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Doorway
I don't know how accurate this is, but I have a name book that says your name means "pig" or "doorway"; "doorway" sounds a little weird, though.
I like the name Portia, Shakespeare used it. Although I've heard about a Portia who everyone thought was named after the car, Porsche.
I don't know how accurate this is, but I have a name book that says your name means "pig" or "doorway"; "doorway" sounds a little weird, though.
I like the name Portia, Shakespeare used it. Although I've heard about a Portia who everyone thought was named after the car, Porsche.
This message was edited 8/31/2014, 10:34 AM
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I can see where the books coming from. Port can mean "gateway," Old English port "portal, door, gate, entrance," from Old French porte "gate, entrance," from Latin porta "city gate, gate; door, entrance," from PIE root *per- (see port (n.1)). Specific meaning "porthole, opening in the side of a ship" is attested from c.1300.
It seems quite possible that Portia could have been derived from Latin porta meaning "gate" or "door."
It seems quite possible that Portia could have been derived from Latin porta meaning "gate" or "door."
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Maybe she blocks the TV a lot...?
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/You+make+a+better+door+than+you+do+a+window
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/You+make+a+better+door+than+you+do+a+window
This message was edited 9/4/2014, 2:49 AM
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Pig Farmer..., Heiress...?
I did not see "ugly" in the etymology of PORCIUS > PORCIA > PORTIA.
It DID say that PORCIUS started off as a surname, that is, a family name. A major source for surnames was the patriarch's occupation. If this etymology is true, it indicates that the patriarch of that family was a "pig farmer," not "pig-like." That was (and is) a respectable business among the agricultural set (well, except from a Jewish perspective). See also http://surnames.behindthename.com/name/porcher
As a first name, it would also mean "pig farmer" (whether or not it is true for that person).
Alternatively, it could be related to:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=portion&searchmode=term
If so, it may be an acknowledgement that this daughter is "a full heiress to her parents' estate."
I did not see "ugly" in the etymology of PORCIUS > PORCIA > PORTIA.
It DID say that PORCIUS started off as a surname, that is, a family name. A major source for surnames was the patriarch's occupation. If this etymology is true, it indicates that the patriarch of that family was a "pig farmer," not "pig-like." That was (and is) a respectable business among the agricultural set (well, except from a Jewish perspective). See also http://surnames.behindthename.com/name/porcher
As a first name, it would also mean "pig farmer" (whether or not it is true for that person).
Alternatively, it could be related to:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=portion&searchmode=term
If so, it may be an acknowledgement that this daughter is "a full heiress to her parents' estate."
This message was edited 8/31/2014, 1:14 AM
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"From Latin portionem (nominative portio) "share, part," accusative of the noun in the phrase pro portione "according to the relation (of parts to each other)" (see proportion). From late 14c. in general sense of "section into which something is divided.""
Portia as a derivative of portio rather than Porcius actually makes a lot more sense. Not only does Portia more closely resemble portio but, for Shakespeare's purposes, the name could be a nod to the fact that his character inherited a full portion of her fathers estate. Additionally within the play while acting as a lawyer, Portia strove to ensure that Antonio was not punished with a sentence that was out of proportion to his crime. This should definitely be added as a possible meaning of the name.
Portia as a derivative of portio rather than Porcius actually makes a lot more sense. Not only does Portia more closely resemble portio but, for Shakespeare's purposes, the name could be a nod to the fact that his character inherited a full portion of her fathers estate. Additionally within the play while acting as a lawyer, Portia strove to ensure that Antonio was not punished with a sentence that was out of proportion to his crime. This should definitely be added as a possible meaning of the name.
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