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Help[Opinions] Re: Maple
in reply to a message by abbasdaughter
In my area, we have plenty of people who read manga. But they're all about 13 years old. I used to read manga. Still wouldn't assume Kaede "rhymes with Friday", if I met an American child with the name.
Like Amphelise said, Maple has been used enough in the US to make charts a few times. Kaede hasn't.
Plus, Maple aligns with a few trends in the US (similar feel to Hazel, Mabel, which are coming back). Kaede doesn't.
Honestly I don't even see how Maple and Kaede are comparable, except that they mean the same thing. Eve and Psyche both originate from their languages word for "to breathe". That doesn't mean they're automatically alternates for each other.
Like Amphelise said, Maple has been used enough in the US to make charts a few times. Kaede hasn't.
Plus, Maple aligns with a few trends in the US (similar feel to Hazel, Mabel, which are coming back). Kaede doesn't.
Honestly I don't even see how Maple and Kaede are comparable, except that they mean the same thing. Eve and Psyche both originate from their languages word for "to breathe". That doesn't mean they're automatically alternates for each other.
This message was edited 2/17/2012, 1:05 PM
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Well, if the purpose of choosing the name was its meaning and that MEANING's association with the person's heritage, then maple and Kaede have EVERYTHING to do with each other. I'd never name a child Cherry Blossom, but Sakura could be a consideration. I wouldn't name a child Spring or Fountain, but Izumi or Aviva would be perfectly acceptable... The meaning is the same. They just sound different... and their tendencies to be used as actual names are different.
Plus, Apple has been used as a name, but it still doesn't feel very namelike and even if 100 people suddenly used it the same year, it would still seem weird as a name.
Also, unless you're a teacher or someone in some other office READING a child's name, you are likely to HEAR the name before you ever see it on paper... thus making it less of an issue how it's spelled. Multi-cultural and ethnic names are becoming more and more of a reality... thus, expanding the pool of choices from which names are taken in the west... and not all of them will make the current top 1000 even if there are more of a particular name than there may have been of some names on the list 100 yrs. ago. Thus, it's not the best measuring tool. I'd think even among the population of Japanese and mixed couples having babies outside of Japan, the likelihood of a couple naming their baby Kaede would prob'ly be higher in Canada than in the States for obvious reasons (ie. meaning of the name and its relation to the family and context).
Plus, Apple has been used as a name, but it still doesn't feel very namelike and even if 100 people suddenly used it the same year, it would still seem weird as a name.
Also, unless you're a teacher or someone in some other office READING a child's name, you are likely to HEAR the name before you ever see it on paper... thus making it less of an issue how it's spelled. Multi-cultural and ethnic names are becoming more and more of a reality... thus, expanding the pool of choices from which names are taken in the west... and not all of them will make the current top 1000 even if there are more of a particular name than there may have been of some names on the list 100 yrs. ago. Thus, it's not the best measuring tool. I'd think even among the population of Japanese and mixed couples having babies outside of Japan, the likelihood of a couple naming their baby Kaede would prob'ly be higher in Canada than in the States for obvious reasons (ie. meaning of the name and its relation to the family and context).
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Z's comment "I wonder if Amanda's was trying to honour her Canadaian roots with the name Maple." was speculation. Thus "I wonder." That might have not been the reason at all. Totally crazy thought, but maybe one of them just said "Hey what do you think of Maple as a name?" and the other one said "Yeah I like that."
Glamour.com reports "No reason behind the baby's name selection, but Maple, which is very autumnal feeling, definitely fits with the list of celebrities who have given their kids names inspired by trees..."
(oh look another trend that Maple fits)
Idk. I'm done with this conversation. Honestly I think if two American celebrities with no Japanese connection (because that is what I've been talking about this whole time) went and named their baby Kaede, it would show up on the "Strangest baby names of the year" list on Nameberry or something. Even if naming is becoming more multicultural.
Glamour.com reports "No reason behind the baby's name selection, but Maple, which is very autumnal feeling, definitely fits with the list of celebrities who have given their kids names inspired by trees..."
(oh look another trend that Maple fits)
Idk. I'm done with this conversation. Honestly I think if two American celebrities with no Japanese connection (because that is what I've been talking about this whole time) went and named their baby Kaede, it would show up on the "Strangest baby names of the year" list on Nameberry or something. Even if naming is becoming more multicultural.
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