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Help[Opinions] Clair-uh defies logic...
in reply to a message by brydz
I know you all say it this way. But it defies logic.
and basically it breaks the rules of the English language to make an AIR sound with just an A and an R.
Sarah as the same. It really drives me nuts.
It should technically be pronounced SAH-Ruh.
Same way as Cara, Kara, Lara etc. are pronounced rhyming with STAR-UH like the way I say Clara...
and basically it breaks the rules of the English language to make an AIR sound with just an A and an R.
Sarah as the same. It really drives me nuts.
It should technically be pronounced SAH-Ruh.
Same way as Cara, Kara, Lara etc. are pronounced rhyming with STAR-UH like the way I say Clara...
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I agree with you. :)
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Hmm what about "clarity" or "carriage"
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It is for me.
People around here find it irritating otherwise, just ask my friend Kara. KAIR-a bothers her to no end.
People around here find it irritating otherwise, just ask my friend Kara. KAIR-a bothers her to no end.
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actually..
I pronounce it Clah-rence, and so does everyone I know. Never heard of it said Claire-ence before.
I pronounce it Clah-rence, and so does everyone I know. Never heard of it said Claire-ence before.
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Its Claire-ence everywhere here in America that I have lived (midwest, west coast, north) and even when I was living in Germany I heard people say it Clair-ence.
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Not in Britain(m)
It's CLA-rence with a short 'a' at the beginning. And I think Clarence comes from Clare not the other way round.
Clara is CLAR-a in Britain (Clar rhymes with star). I only realised Americans said Claire-a when I noticed a lot of people on this board debating Claire and Clara as if they sounded the same with an 'a' on the end of Clara.
It's CLA-rence with a short 'a' at the beginning. And I think Clarence comes from Clare not the other way round.
Clara is CLAR-a in Britain (Clar rhymes with star). I only realised Americans said Claire-a when I noticed a lot of people on this board debating Claire and Clara as if they sounded the same with an 'a' on the end of Clara.
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You're right, but here it is...I was explaining why I think it's normal for Americans to say it Claire-a.
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I'm American, and I don't say Clara Claire-a. I say Claire with the vowel sounding like the vowel in stair, and I say Clara with the first vowel sounding like the vowel in hat. Clara isn't Claire with an A on the end of it, for me. On the other hand, the vowel is nothing like the vowel in star, for me, either.
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The vowel in hat and the vowel in stair sound the exact same to me...well Hat sounds a bit more nasally, but the same sound.
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okay....
its funny how you think Hat and Stair have the same sound..
Hat is a short A sound. Stair barely even notices the a.
but then again.. in the US they tend to say AIR as AYER and elongate the a.. so I guess it makes sense.
its funny how you think Hat and Stair have the same sound..
Hat is a short A sound. Stair barely even notices the a.
but then again.. in the US they tend to say AIR as AYER and elongate the a.. so I guess it makes sense.
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Where are you getting all this information about Americans from? I thought you were Australian? You are speaking about us as if you know us really well, except that what you say isn't true...at least not in my experience (and I am American). Saying AIR as AYER is something only maybe someone from the south would do or John Wayne. It is definately not something that should be generalized about all Americans (or even a great portion for that matter).
This message was edited 7/14/2009, 3:26 AM
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it was a joke..
taken from the song AYER that is out on the radio lately.
taken from the song AYER that is out on the radio lately.
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wow...um I'm glad I can amuse you?
I don't think it's really that funny, everyone's accents are different.
And yes, I also say Air as AYER.
I don't think it's really that funny, everyone's accents are different.
And yes, I also say Air as AYER.
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The perils of trying to discuss pronunciation in print! It gets so complicated!
To me, stair and Claire rhyme with Eyre, as in "Jane Eyre." The first syllable of Clara rhymes with what a baby would say: "Waaah!"
To me, stair and Claire rhyme with Eyre, as in "Jane Eyre." The first syllable of Clara rhymes with what a baby would say: "Waaah!"
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Yeah I meant in America...
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Ditto
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Haha, yes, we are totally OT but sometimes that is allowed. :)
Clare could be pronounced as rhyming with the word are, but it isn't pronounced that way. Like I mentioned earlier the English language has funky rules and half the time it doesn't follow them.
Clare could be pronounced as rhyming with the word are, but it isn't pronounced that way. Like I mentioned earlier the English language has funky rules and half the time it doesn't follow them.
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Yeah that's what I was trying to get at.
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Agree, but I like it. lol.
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The English language actually has conflicting rules, I was taught when I was young that is you had vowel-consonant-vowel then the first vowel should be said with a long sound by which it would be CLAIR-ah. I just find it extremely difficult to say Clahr-ah or I would as I think it's prettier, but it's mostly about accents.
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I agree, even though I'm American
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Well, I'm from the U.S., and that's the ONLY way I've ever heard Clara/Sarah pronounced. I don't know what to tell you.
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Here in Aus, I think they are pretty much always pronounced ar. Well, except Sarah which is always Sair-. Sara is Sah-ruh though, and the others are said the same way. I know one Sara said Sarah, and one Clara said Clair-uh, but the first has Candian parents and the second American.
I think Tara said Tair-uh is one of the ugliest things I've heard. I like the -ar prn. much better than the -air ones.
I think Tara said Tair-uh is one of the ugliest things I've heard. I like the -ar prn. much better than the -air ones.
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I'm the opposite with Tara...
I think Tara pronounced like Tar is super ugly and just destroys the name for me. It's my middle name and it feels so princessy, airy, and light pronounced Tair-uh.
I think Tara pronounced like Tar is super ugly and just destroys the name for me. It's my middle name and it feels so princessy, airy, and light pronounced Tair-uh.
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Its kind of interesting how we pronounce names though. In America, everyone pronounces the debated names in different ways. I think it depends on the area of the country you live in and your preferred pronunciation. I have lived all over so I say Clara and Sarah as Clair-uh and Sair-uh, but I say Tara as Tar-uh and Cara as Car-uh and Cair-uh.
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Lol agree about Tara..
and I HATE how the americans say Ca-RUH or Ta-RUH with a short A sound like as in carry..
and I HATE how the americans say Ca-RUH or Ta-RUH with a short A sound like as in carry..
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The English language does not really follow all rules. Think of the words through and the word weird. If you used English phonetics through would not look right and if you used the rule of 'I before E except after C' then you would spell weird as wierd.
Rules are not all conclusive. Hence, Clara is pronounced Claire-uh and Sarah is pronounced Sair-uh. You can pronounce it the way you want, but I bet most people you meet will not pronounce it that way and you and your daughter will spend your whole lives correcting people.
I don't think it defies logic. I guess you could say it is logical in that it follows the chaos theory, as in there is a method to the madness, you just don't see it...if that makes any sense.
Rules are not all conclusive. Hence, Clara is pronounced Claire-uh and Sarah is pronounced Sair-uh. You can pronounce it the way you want, but I bet most people you meet will not pronounce it that way and you and your daughter will spend your whole lives correcting people.
I don't think it defies logic. I guess you could say it is logical in that it follows the chaos theory, as in there is a method to the madness, you just don't see it...if that makes any sense.
This message was edited 7/12/2009, 7:31 PM
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Brydz lives in Australia. In Australia people say 'CLAR-uh', not 'CLAIR-uh.' Don't go placing any bets.
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lol @ chaos theory.
i guess it fits in this day and age with all the stupid names that don't make sense.
I still personally prefer the pronunciation I'm used to, just because it makes more sense..
i guess it fits in this day and age with all the stupid names that don't make sense.
I still personally prefer the pronunciation I'm used to, just because it makes more sense..
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