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Help[Opinions] A fake Irish name
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This is a trend that has been going on. Ireland has been in, and everyone wants an "Irish" name. Names such as Caitlin, Brayden, Teagan, Erin, and others are thought to be "Irish" but are either not used there, or have are not etymologically connected to Ireland. They are used by people who have less than an ounce of Irish blood in them, to fit into the trend.
Does this make sense?
Does this make sense?
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Minor nitpick. Of course, this is obvious to you, I know, but I'm saying it anyway for the record :-)
Approximately no one really names children "to fit into a trend" or because they really think "it's cool to be Irish (or Welsh or whatever ethnicity)." People in the same cultural time and place tend to share tastes - naturally & logically, if somewhat mysteriously. Irish-sounding names are like that in much of the US lately. When someone likes and uses an Irish or Irish-sounding name, they do it knowing it sounds fashionable; but that's not really their reason for using it, I don't think. I think they genuinely like the names, for reasons they can't explain.
So I take some exception to your tone of disdain for people who like and use Irish and Irish-sounding names, although in general they're not my thing..
I mean, I first started following name trends on the internet a couple years ago, and I thought my tastes must be so "different" -- but then I found out my favorites were actually pretty popular, and often the people who liked one, liked many of the others too. There's no way I could have been intentionally following a trend, because I'm not the most culturally in-touch person on the planet, let's just say. But it turned out I liked a lot of fashionable names that I hadn't heard anywhere for years prior to looking at name boards.
- chazda
Approximately no one really names children "to fit into a trend" or because they really think "it's cool to be Irish (or Welsh or whatever ethnicity)." People in the same cultural time and place tend to share tastes - naturally & logically, if somewhat mysteriously. Irish-sounding names are like that in much of the US lately. When someone likes and uses an Irish or Irish-sounding name, they do it knowing it sounds fashionable; but that's not really their reason for using it, I don't think. I think they genuinely like the names, for reasons they can't explain.
So I take some exception to your tone of disdain for people who like and use Irish and Irish-sounding names, although in general they're not my thing..
I mean, I first started following name trends on the internet a couple years ago, and I thought my tastes must be so "different" -- but then I found out my favorites were actually pretty popular, and often the people who liked one, liked many of the others too. There's no way I could have been intentionally following a trend, because I'm not the most culturally in-touch person on the planet, let's just say. But it turned out I liked a lot of fashionable names that I hadn't heard anywhere for years prior to looking at name boards.
- chazda
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I find that all the time too - I generally find that I'm slightly ahead of the trend, but if I find a name I suddenly like, I'll find that in the weeks following that name turns up everywhere! It happened with Lorien, and with Lilah, and a couple of others too.
None of us can stand outside the culture and poke fingers at it. We are all part of it, whether we like it or not.
♦ Chrisell ♦
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
None of us can stand outside the culture and poke fingers at it. We are all part of it, whether we like it or not.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. - J.R.R. Tolkien.
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Okay gotcha, thanks.
And I totally see the Irish trend as well.
Not so much in naming but it's suddenly become cool to be Irish.
And I totally see the Irish trend as well.
Not so much in naming but it's suddenly become cool to be Irish.
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They are used by people who have less than an ounce of Irish blood in them, to fit into the trend.
I hate that. People that go "Oh, yes, I have Irish heritage. My great-aunt's cousins next-door-neighbour's cat comes from Ireland, which is why I feel fully justified to name my daughter Scoithniamh-Caoilfhionn-Irylynn and lecture people on "my" home country whenever possible."
- Maria
I hate that. People that go "Oh, yes, I have Irish heritage. My great-aunt's cousins next-door-neighbour's cat comes from Ireland, which is why I feel fully justified to name my daughter Scoithniamh-Caoilfhionn-Irylynn and lecture people on "my" home country whenever possible."
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I really don't know anyone who does that, because I live in an area of the US that has a large population of Irish descent. I'm half Irish/Italian myself. But I find it odd to even say that, when we go back so far on my father's side that none of my grandparents or great grandparents were born there or ever set foot there.
As my Mom always said, we're American first and foremost.
As my Mom always said, we're American first and foremost.
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Lol!
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LOL
~Heather~
~Heather~
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