[Opinions] Kleio
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it pron kli-O (- like i- in thanium)
do you mean KLEE-o? or KLY-o? sorry i didn't really get it.
no
it's not KLEE-o (e- like e- in elephant)
it kli-O (i- like i- in in with the accent in o)
it's not KLEE-o (e- like e- in elephant)
it kli-O (i- like i- in in with the accent in o)
I do not think you are pronouncing EE correctly. EE is like the Y at the end of 'energy', the first E in 'evil', etc, not like the first E in 'elephant'.
In my accent, at least, EE in between L and OH would sound virtually identical to I (as in 'in'). I-as-in-'in' is a tiny bit shorter, but the difference would be negligible.
In my accent, at least, EE in between L and OH would sound virtually identical to I (as in 'in'). I-as-in-'in' is a tiny bit shorter, but the difference would be negligible.
the sound of y or i is small-cut. The sound of letters ei together is i or y *I don't know how else to express it* but what I do know is that I pron my name right...
This message was edited 11/18/2008, 9:55 AM
In most American accents (and possibly most accents for native speakers of English), the difference between the EE sound and the sound you are talking about (and I do know what sound you are talking about) would be negligible. It's not a vowel sound that is normally found in English. I found your phonetic transcription to be confusing/misleading.
It seems that the main difference between your transcription and theirs (apart from nonstandard vowel sounds) is the emphasis - you placed emphasis on the final syllable, and they placed emphasis on the first.
It seems that the main difference between your transcription and theirs (apart from nonstandard vowel sounds) is the emphasis - you placed emphasis on the final syllable, and they placed emphasis on the first.
and?
and what? Do you know Greek?Because only then you could read the letters read how the ancient name is *closed* so to know how the perispomenes the oxies are?
If so where is my misleading since ei is i and the accent is the omikron where is the wrong?
and what? Do you know Greek?Because only then you could read the letters read how the ancient name is *closed* so to know how the perispomenes the oxies are?
If so where is my misleading since ei is i and the accent is the omikron where is the wrong?
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fail lulz
fail lulz
This message was edited 11/18/2008, 10:44 AM
There is only one pronunciation, not a modern or something else
only one pronunciation everything other is mispronouncing and is as pathetic as misspelled names
only one pronunciation everything other is mispronouncing and is as pathetic as misspelled names
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LOL
"There's only one pronunciation, not a modern"
Uhm, yeah it is. It's the MODERN Greek pronunciation, Ancient Greek didn't have the 'i' sound as much as Greek now has...
"There's only one pronunciation, not a modern"
Uhm, yeah it is. It's the MODERN Greek pronunciation, Ancient Greek didn't have the 'i' sound as much as Greek now has...
no really
you see Ancient Greek was spokken in Greece since '68 as the formal language of the nation
you see Ancient Greek was spokken in Greece since '68 as the formal language of the nation
What I mean is that no one knows the exact pronunication used 2000 years ago, just like no one really knows what latin would have sounded like exactly. I do know that modern Greek has more 'i' sounds than Ancient Greek had.
Who really knows?
But…at some places in Greece where were not under the Roman Turks or German we can have the evidence that we want about the pronunciation and the spelling of some words and that is where we –the persons who work with philology and etymology- find the evidence we need about our studies as for the ei- sound it is an ancient I sound (if I expressed right)
Anyway I am not to *get into you*
But…at some places in Greece where were not under the Roman Turks or German we can have the evidence that we want about the pronunciation and the spelling of some words and that is where we –the persons who work with philology and etymology- find the evidence we need about our studies as for the ei- sound it is an ancient I sound (if I expressed right)
Anyway I am not to *get into you*
Yeah you expressed it right, I understand. I'm not sure about your theory though, because language changes whether there is outside influence or not, but I agree to the part that there can be indication to ancient pronunciations. As to what Kleio really would have sounded like, I don't know. I was just sightly amused by your intial comment, bc of the little I do know about pronunciation differences in Greek.
well
I really don’t understand how I must *take* the last line…I really can’t understand from net…well I will have a good faith at peoples (very difficult for me) and I wouldn’t felt insulted…
I really don’t understand how I must *take* the last line…I really can’t understand from net…well I will have a good faith at peoples (very difficult for me) and I wouldn’t felt insulted…
The name is listed as Ancient Greek and you give the modern Greek pronunication while stating that there's only one pronunciation, not a modern or something. That was the amusing part for me, which isn't a personal insult, but I do find contradictions or things that seem like contradictions funny. Pop songs for example are filled with it and I always find it entertaining. Probably shoulsn't have said it, for the exact reason you gave; this aren't easy in communicating over the internet.
btw puppy looks like Tumbler or Humphrey to me
btw puppy looks like Tumbler or Humphrey to me
I didn't start this
I was repling at Akis who said that we need "modern pronnounciation"...
I was repling at Akis who said that we need "modern pronnounciation"...
I didn't blame you for anything just now. No probs as far as I'm concerned.
edit: said I read Akis' post, but obviously didn't.
edit: said I read Akis' post, but obviously didn't.
This message was edited 11/19/2008, 4:47 AM
The real problem is that you are using terminology that is hard to follow, and also not making much sense. I think your English pronunciation might be a little off, just as our Greek would be.
meaning?
Just that your indication of the prn of the ei as like the I in in doesn't make sense in my dialect, I guess just that it was confusing because English really has no truly standard pronunciations as it's so varied, and so the I in in is pronounced all dfferent ways, so I guess it's just that English is confusing, more than that your pronunciation is off.
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it's closest to Clio.
the accent is on o not i
the accent is on o not i
This message was edited 11/18/2008, 10:32 AM
so it would be kli-O ? that sounds pretty, i like it better than KLI-o
yes!kli-O
yes is much better than KLI-o
yes is much better than KLI-o
I like it even more now since I finally get the prn Thank you!