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Help[Games] Re: ATTN photo congrats hosts and players
in reply to a message by Tippins
Just thought to make my own comment on this as no one has spoke in favor of these yet.
For reason A, I definitely understand the reasoning behind this- although I am not one of them needing so- the taking up space for people with slow connections part of it. However, the interest part I am not, there are plenty of games that people take different interests in and the ones they don't do take up space too (for example, for the longest time I disliked eliminations- now when some people have had long lists of names in these, they too have taken up long lengths of the page- but hey, getting more finger exercises to roll the page down to skip it! :P )
Also with space, saying that we don't start any more is fair, I believe there are three or four currently running- the games all run in trends and I know that when the last four or five topics are the same game it does get annoying. However, when they end is it fair to start new games or are we attempting to let this game die out?
For a point of it being a game, well, it is, imo. Its congrats to a new level- the contest part is a little iffy, but the winners get wishes which is just as fair as the person who has the best name for a child (vote on by the host of the game). And then with Keepskuh's Congrats, she includes events, etc. So definitely worthy of the title game (as much as any other game on here is a game- not sure what qualifies as a game... but hey CAFs and Congrats are so why not these ones?)
As for ethical-ness and creepiness: well, if someone models for stock images or hey, if someone posts photos on the internet without having a flash website or other means of protecting the photos or watermarks over them, they should know better. Straight-linking from the websites has come to annoy me as that is what most websites dislike as it takes up memory/space for them too. Does that say anything about creepiness too? I mean, people post names from birth announcements too- that shares kids real names and the names of their siblings, etc and asks us to judge those real kids' names too. Idk... maybe I've been playing on role-playing and Dream Family boards too long.
Also, are your opinions the same for adoption games with photos? Or is this focused on the congrats games?
I hope I don't upset you, or anyone, just wanted to share from the other side because I am sure that I'm not the only one who feels in favour of them.
For reason A, I definitely understand the reasoning behind this- although I am not one of them needing so- the taking up space for people with slow connections part of it. However, the interest part I am not, there are plenty of games that people take different interests in and the ones they don't do take up space too (for example, for the longest time I disliked eliminations- now when some people have had long lists of names in these, they too have taken up long lengths of the page- but hey, getting more finger exercises to roll the page down to skip it! :P )
Also with space, saying that we don't start any more is fair, I believe there are three or four currently running- the games all run in trends and I know that when the last four or five topics are the same game it does get annoying. However, when they end is it fair to start new games or are we attempting to let this game die out?
For a point of it being a game, well, it is, imo. Its congrats to a new level- the contest part is a little iffy, but the winners get wishes which is just as fair as the person who has the best name for a child (vote on by the host of the game). And then with Keepskuh's Congrats, she includes events, etc. So definitely worthy of the title game (as much as any other game on here is a game- not sure what qualifies as a game... but hey CAFs and Congrats are so why not these ones?)
As for ethical-ness and creepiness: well, if someone models for stock images or hey, if someone posts photos on the internet without having a flash website or other means of protecting the photos or watermarks over them, they should know better. Straight-linking from the websites has come to annoy me as that is what most websites dislike as it takes up memory/space for them too. Does that say anything about creepiness too? I mean, people post names from birth announcements too- that shares kids real names and the names of their siblings, etc and asks us to judge those real kids' names too. Idk... maybe I've been playing on role-playing and Dream Family boards too long.
Also, are your opinions the same for adoption games with photos? Or is this focused on the congrats games?
I hope I don't upset you, or anyone, just wanted to share from the other side because I am sure that I'm not the only one who feels in favour of them.
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LOL the interest part was a bit presumptuous. I just get very bored scrolling through all of these photo contests. To be fair, they take up far more room than those ittybitty eliminations - the eliminations look longer but really they pretty consistently mirror the size of CAF's, the larger ones mirroring more popular CAFs.
I was proposing to let these ones die out and then not start any new ones.
It is mostly the contest part that is annoying and not really name game related. I must disagree with you when you say it is no different from the person with the best name getting a wish. It is different, because of this reason: ...name games. When you take the name variable out entirely, which we do with these picture contests, it no longer belongs on this board. It is also different because coming up with contest-winning names requires a degree of creativity that is not necessary at all for browsing veer.com, except maybe you have to use keywords you hadn't thought to use before. I guess it is the priority of the contest-maker to decide which values he or she is going to reward in the contest, but you have to admit - the ability to successfully browse stock photographs is a really random value, and a value not related closely enough to naming that it should justify taking up so much board space.
I think what qualifies something as a name game - which is an important distinction to make! - is if there is a heavy focus on names for RP games, and in contests if the qualifying factor is names. So I disagree that it is worthy of the title "game," at least the type of games that should be on this board.
regarding ethicalness: well, yeah, they should know better. But do you really want to be one of the reasons they should know better? [That is one of the problems with constitutional society! People feel as though protective laws take the place of protective sense!] It is like eating a lot of samples without ever intending to buy.
I was proposing to let these ones die out and then not start any new ones.
It is mostly the contest part that is annoying and not really name game related. I must disagree with you when you say it is no different from the person with the best name getting a wish. It is different, because of this reason: ...name games. When you take the name variable out entirely, which we do with these picture contests, it no longer belongs on this board. It is also different because coming up with contest-winning names requires a degree of creativity that is not necessary at all for browsing veer.com, except maybe you have to use keywords you hadn't thought to use before. I guess it is the priority of the contest-maker to decide which values he or she is going to reward in the contest, but you have to admit - the ability to successfully browse stock photographs is a really random value, and a value not related closely enough to naming that it should justify taking up so much board space.
I think what qualifies something as a name game - which is an important distinction to make! - is if there is a heavy focus on names for RP games, and in contests if the qualifying factor is names. So I disagree that it is worthy of the title "game," at least the type of games that should be on this board.
regarding ethicalness: well, yeah, they should know better. But do you really want to be one of the reasons they should know better? [That is one of the problems with constitutional society! People feel as though protective laws take the place of protective sense!] It is like eating a lot of samples without ever intending to buy.
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I suppose, this entire thing is a matter of opinion and apparently our level of moral grounds- I don't see problems with it, I don't- and maybe its because its fazed out of me or because I'm a photographer and take photos of people all the time and post them on the internet (with or without consent) and maybe there are just so many more creepy things out there.
Edited to make the point just as above: opinion, the lot of it.
Edited to make the point just as above: opinion, the lot of it.
This message was edited 5/12/2008, 6:26 AM
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