[Facts] Ismay/Isemay
I've seen this name multiple times, and it also been surmised that Emsee became popular for girls because of it's similarity to Ismay. Yet, it's not on the boards, and searching for it here just brings up references to the name. So, what is the origin of Ismay?
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Here are some links:
http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Ismay
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/givennames.html
http://www.geocities.com/ismayfamily/origins.htm
The first one says this:
This very rare and interesting name is of early medieval English origin, from a female personal name found recorded in England from the 13th Century on, spelt variously Ysemay, Isemay, Ysmay and Isamaya. The given name is thought to derive from an Old German compound name, 'Ismagi(n)', translating as 'iron-strength', and also forming the origin of another female personal name, Ismena or Ismenia. 'Ismay' is the only surname to derive from the given name Ismay, although Ismenia has been the origin for many variant surnames, such as Emeney, Emmence, Emans and Immink. The marriage of one Alyce Esmay and Henry Hamon was recorded on October 29th 1568 at St. Giles, Cripplegate, in London, and John Ismay married Elizabeth Martin at St. Margaret's, Westminster, on October 14th 1656. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Ralph Isemay or Hyssmaye, which was dated circa 1200, Charters of Sheffield, Yorkshire, during the reign of King John, known as 'Lackland', 1199-1216. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
The second one says that Ismay is "Not the same as Esme, which is an older name."
Ancestry.com says the surname Esmay is a "variant of Ismay, from a medieval female personal name of uncertain origin."
http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Ismay
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~oel/givennames.html
http://www.geocities.com/ismayfamily/origins.htm
The first one says this:
This very rare and interesting name is of early medieval English origin, from a female personal name found recorded in England from the 13th Century on, spelt variously Ysemay, Isemay, Ysmay and Isamaya. The given name is thought to derive from an Old German compound name, 'Ismagi(n)', translating as 'iron-strength', and also forming the origin of another female personal name, Ismena or Ismenia. 'Ismay' is the only surname to derive from the given name Ismay, although Ismenia has been the origin for many variant surnames, such as Emeney, Emmence, Emans and Immink. The marriage of one Alyce Esmay and Henry Hamon was recorded on October 29th 1568 at St. Giles, Cripplegate, in London, and John Ismay married Elizabeth Martin at St. Margaret's, Westminster, on October 14th 1656. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Ralph Isemay or Hyssmaye, which was dated circa 1200, Charters of Sheffield, Yorkshire, during the reign of King John, known as 'Lackland', 1199-1216. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
The second one says that Ismay is "Not the same as Esme, which is an older name."
Ancestry.com says the surname Esmay is a "variant of Ismay, from a medieval female personal name of uncertain origin."
This message was edited 11/12/2007, 12:44 PM
Interesting.
So it's a legit name that has always hung around on the periphay. Hmm.
So it's a legit name that has always hung around on the periphay. Hmm.
I don't know the origin (so why are you responding? says Siri)-I came accross it in the book, "What's Bred in the Bone", by Robertson Davies.Ismay, was the spelling.
The book was written in the 1980's, but the part including this character was set in the 1930's, the character then being about age 20, thus, born in about 1910.
Don't know if you're familiar with the writer..he was *very* careful with names and research in general. So, I'd guess that name was at least current at the time (1910) if not necessarily popular.
The book was written in the 1980's, but the part including this character was set in the 1930's, the character then being about age 20, thus, born in about 1910.
Don't know if you're familiar with the writer..he was *very* careful with names and research in general. So, I'd guess that name was at least current at the time (1910) if not necessarily popular.
Yep
I came across it in a book written around that time period as well. So it's totally legit.
I came across it in a book written around that time period as well. So it's totally legit.