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Help[Opinions] Re: Why do people do this?
in reply to a message by Kate
Well, I've seen them all in the girl's section of the name book, plus I know girls named Remy, Gael, Avery, and Talbot. Avery and Talbot are my sisters. I can show you pictures if you're that set on them being boy's names.
Arden is listed as a girl's name in the name book: Latin, "ardent, sincere"
Harper: English, "musician, writer"
Remy: French, "jaded"
Gael: Hebrew, "energetic"
not meaning to start an argument, but I have never heard these names used on boys, and I have heard all of them on girls.
Arden is listed as a girl's name in the name book: Latin, "ardent, sincere"
Harper: English, "musician, writer"
Remy: French, "jaded"
Gael: Hebrew, "energetic"
not meaning to start an argument, but I have never heard these names used on boys, and I have heard all of them on girls.
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...I have heard all of them on boys. I can show you pictures and examples if you're that set on them being girl's names.
Arden Lowe, male character in My Sweet Audrina by V.C. Andrews. Not at all common on boys, but not unheard of, either.
Harper James Simon, son of Paul Simon and musician in his own right:
Remy LeBeau, aka Gambit, a character from a little comic book series called X-Men--perhaps you've heard of it?:
Gael Garcia Bernal, an actor probably best known for playing Che Guavera:
Your experiences may be with girls bearing these names, but your experiences aren't representative of the world as a whole.
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Arden Lowe, male character in My Sweet Audrina by V.C. Andrews. Not at all common on boys, but not unheard of, either.
Harper James Simon, son of Paul Simon and musician in his own right:
Remy LeBeau, aka Gambit, a character from a little comic book series called X-Men--perhaps you've heard of it?:
Gael Garcia Bernal, an actor probably best known for playing Che Guavera:
Your experiences may be with girls bearing these names, but your experiences aren't representative of the world as a whole.
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Mmm...Yummy! I love Gael Garcia Bernal!
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I've only seen one Arden, and he was a boy. ; )
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And as we know, all baby name books are correct /eyeroll
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Well, if baby name books aren't always correct, than who's to say that this site is?
Like I said, I was not meaning to start a huge controversy! I was just giving my opinions, to which, I believe, everyone is entitled?
Like I said, I was not meaning to start a huge controversy! I was just giving my opinions, to which, I believe, everyone is entitled?
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Baby name books have a notorious reputation regarding their accuracy. I can't say yours is a very bad one since I don't know what it is. But this site has a very good reputation; its accuracy is why I post here. It's not perfect, but it tries to be and will correct mistakes. (unlike many sites I've visited)
Just FYI.
Just FYI.
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The major difference between this site and baby name books...(m)
is that this is an etymology site, not a "kewt baybee nayme" site. All the names on this site are researched, which means that the meanings are never made up. Many baby name books simply make up nice meanings if the actual name has a not-so-nice meaning, or they don't know what the real meaning is. As an example, many baby name books/websites say that Charlotte means "little woman", when in fact it is a feminine diminutive of Charles -- and therefore has the same meaning as Charles (which is "man").
FYI etymology means "The process of tracing out and describing the elements of a word with their modifications of form and sense" according to the Oxford English dictionary. That's the reason why a lot of people like this site -- it appeals to our love of language, history, and study, not just whatever is trendy at the moment.
is that this is an etymology site, not a "kewt baybee nayme" site. All the names on this site are researched, which means that the meanings are never made up. Many baby name books simply make up nice meanings if the actual name has a not-so-nice meaning, or they don't know what the real meaning is. As an example, many baby name books/websites say that Charlotte means "little woman", when in fact it is a feminine diminutive of Charles -- and therefore has the same meaning as Charles (which is "man").
FYI etymology means "The process of tracing out and describing the elements of a word with their modifications of form and sense" according to the Oxford English dictionary. That's the reason why a lot of people like this site -- it appeals to our love of language, history, and study, not just whatever is trendy at the moment.
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actually I would think Charlotte means "woman" since it is the feminine version of Charles wouldn't it?. A woman cannot be a man so how would Charlotte still mean "man".
This message was edited 8/2/2007, 7:22 PM
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I don't think making it feminine would change the meaning of it. A woman can also not be Ireland, but Erin's still an acceptable name. etc
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lol! too true
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That makes me sad, I don't want Charlotte's meaning to be "man" eh. It's not pretty, lol.
In my own mind it's "woman", LOL. I'm being stubborn, wah..:(
In my own mind it's "woman", LOL. I'm being stubborn, wah..:(
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I guess it's up to interpretation. But if the meaning "man" for Charles turns into "woman" for the feminine form, then does that mean "son of--" names turn into "daughter of--" names when used on girls? :-/
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I don't think it matters...both Charlotte and Charles have so much history that it creates meaning IMO
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I have seen all of them used on boys, and just beacause they're used on girls doesn't mean they're not boy's names. Many boys names are being stolen for girls. (and I say stolen, because once they're used often enough for girls, they are considered unusable for boys, as your attitude demonstrates.) These names have a longer history of use as boys names, despite modern usage and books.
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I know they are used on girls. You can name a girl Edward but that doesn't change the fact that Edward is a boy's name.
Arden, Harper, Avery, and Talbot are all English surnames. I don't really like surnames on either sex, but they have been traditionally given to boys. I don't like the surnames-on-girls trend.
Remy is definately a French boy's name.
Arden, Harper, Avery, and Talbot are all English surnames. I don't really like surnames on either sex, but they have been traditionally given to boys. I don't like the surnames-on-girls trend.
Remy is definately a French boy's name.
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