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Andy thanks for all your help I understand that you say that those who translate YEHSHUA "he saves",have this very grammatical form in mind, but you are not sure. His name is Dr.James Strong (LL.D.,S.T.D)devoted 35 years of his life to the creation of his concordance. This is the same person that translates YAHSHUA "Yahweh is salvation" in his concordance. In acts 4:12"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved".I know that the freinds of Joshua called him by his true name Yahshua. thanks again for your input